Does anybody else get frustrated with "blank" posts, that shouldn't be?
There's probably a bug open on this, tho I've not looked. It seems pan (or the gtk+ widget it uses to display posts, or the mimelib it uses to decode them) doesn't cope properly with the Latin-1 (aka charset="iso-8859-1) and Unicode no-break-space character, hex A0, presented in MIME/quoted-printable posts in "raw" form using the = A 0 escape sequence (three chars, spaced out here, to avoid triggering the problem with this post, but normally together). When pan encounters this character, it simply fails to display the entire post, such that it looks blank. (If you have headers toggled on and it's in the main body, you do see the headers. I don't know what it would do with posts with multiple text parts, which it usually displays, if only one had this char, whether it'd display all but that one, or none of them.) I'm seeing this frustratingly frequently on gmane's list2news groups in particular. FWIW, looking at the headers of the one I have in front of me ATM, the original client was: X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/240.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Of course, that's converted by gmane. However, the post appears to be adhering to standards (quoted-printable using the appropriate = escape, and correct iso-8859-1 according to the table at wikipedia under that standard), so it's not a rogue client or bad conversion. I don't know if there are other characters that cause pan to "blank", or not, but this one's sufficiently common, at least in the groups I browse, that it needs taken care of, preferably before the next release. It seems to me that, even if it's a bug in the display widget, as I suspect is quite possible, it should be /relatively/ easy to code around it, by replacing that character, for display only, with a standard space char, ASCII hex 20. KHaley? Anyone else with the coding skills necessary? Would any of you like to take a look? Here are some of the headers (missing ones denoted with a blank line) of the post with the issue that I'm looking at ATM. It's available on nntp://news.gmane.org , for anyone who wishes to take a look at it. Note that there's a URL to the web interface as the bottom header. Of course, that's not going to provide the raw post as necessary to debug the issue, but it's what I'm using ATM to actually read the message. Replying is unfortunately a different matter, as tho I can of course select/copy and paste, I then have to go thru and manually add the quote indicators, which can be a pain. So I usually just don't bother, and let someone else have at the post. Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rajat Rajput <rajputra...@yahoo.com> Newsgroups: gmane.comp.kde.linux Subject: kwin - X - opengl Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 19:07:59 +0530 (IST) Lines: 40 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 13:42:59 +0000 (UTC) X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/240.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 X-BeenThere: kde-li...@kde.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.kde.linux:25881 Archived-At: <http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kde.linux/25881> FWIW, the permalink page has a link in the left column to the nntp:// protocol newsgroup. I run kde and was looking at the page in konqueror, but don't have knode installed as I use pan, so I expected an error telling me it didn't understand the protocol when I clicked. I was pleasantly surprised to see... apparently there's an nntp kioslave, and the newsgroup opened in /dolphin/ of all things, as a virtual folder, with every message appearing as a file, all nearly 26 thousand of them gmane has archived for that list! Fortunately it didn't appear to download all the messages, perhaps just the overviews, or maybe even just the message sequence (xref) numbers, which is what it displays as the "filenames". Simple clicking on a "file" did produce the expected error, but I was able to right-click and select open with kwrite, which it did. So I just discovered something new about kde (4.3.3 installed) that I didn't know before -- it has an nntp kioslave, and can open newsgroups in dolphin, and messages using my text-editor of choice, kwrite being what was setupt! =:^) FWIW2, I discovered some time ago, more or less equally accidentally, that the text-based lynx browser has nntp:// capacities as well. That can be very handy when X won't start and you find the answer to fix it in a newspost! =:^) -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman _______________________________________________ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-users
