Phillip Pi <a...@zimage.com> posted 20090419205642.gb14...@alpha.zimage.com, excerpted below, on Sun, 19 Apr 2009 13:56:42 -0700:
> I use both Tin and Pan v0.14.2.91 (don't really like the newer one) to > share the .newsrc file (not at the same time obviously) in Debian. I > unsubscribed some newsgroups. > > By hand, I deleted all these unwanted newgroups with "!" in my .newsrc > file: > ald.binaries.vcdquality! 1-2 > alt.binaries.alias! 1-3543 [more groups snipped] > Everytime I load Pan and exit, these comes back! How do I remove these > permanentely? Tin doesn't put these back after running and exiting. I > even tried reimporting my .newsrc with unwanted newsgroups (no !s) in > Pan, and exiting but I still see these unwanted newsgroups. :( > > So, what is up? Thank you in advnace. :) The key to understanding what's going on here is to realize that while old-pan /sort/ of supported newsrc files, that wasn't its main record of things -- it had its own database format and basically only exported to newsrc files so it could work cooperatively with other news clients. Thus, it's seeing the data in the newsrcs and using that to update its own database, then exporting the combined information back to the newsrc files when it is closed. What you have to do is unsubscribe from the groups in question from inside pan, then immediately close pan, and it should take. You can then open the newsrcs manually (or using tin may work as well, I don't use it so don't know) and delete the old group information if desired. If you do so you should probably do the same thing to the pan record, or, while it shouldn't resubscribe them, it'll probably put the record back of the messages you had read when it closes again. I know you have reasons to use old-pan instead of new-pan and I respect that. However, it is worth pointing out that new-pan uses the newsrc files directly -- tho it stores other non-newsrc info in other files too. Since new-pan uses the newsrc files directly, it shouldn't have this issue. The one caveat there would be if you have multiple servers, since the newsrc format apparently has no provision for that. Thus, new-pan uses multiple newsrcs, identified by number rather than server name, and if you were to try sharing them, you'd need to ensure that you configured each client (by hand) to point at the same newsrc for the same server, or there'd be chaos. As they say, HTH! =:^) -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman _______________________________________________ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-users