Beartooth wrote: > On Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:52:47 -0600, Gerald L wrote: > [....] >> I was just interested to see if the alpine_helper.pl was actually owned >> by you. >> >> You have some serious ownership/permissions issues on your system that >> are going to be VERY difficult to diagnose via email. There is >> absolutely no reason that kwrite should be the only editor able to open >> that file. >> >> I'd suspect the fact that you couldn't open it using gedit or anything >> else is also caused by whatever is making it fail to run every time from >> Pan. >> >> About the only way to even begin to troubleshoot at this point will be >> for you to sit down and start writing a book. >> >> Word-for-word, command-by-command, what you do from the time you turn on >> the machine to the time it fails to work correctly. You're not running >> the same distro I'm familiar with so it still will probably require the >> assistance of others. > > Oh double aaarrrgghhh -- plus rats, and then more rats! > > Here's some background -- at length, with my apologies -- on > that, in case it inspires anyone. > > I've been running one family of distros almost exclusively ever > since I got into Linux with RedHat 6 or 7, upgrading to each new release > when I can, and doing fresh installs whenever an upgrade fails. > > When I get a newer bigger faster machine, the previous one gets > demoted to #2, then 3, then 4, then out the door. #2 - 4 are essentially > backitter-uppiters -- all the same apps installed, as nearly as I can > manage it, and most of the same data, copying all I can, back and forth > over the LAN or by sneakermail. All that naturally requires a lot of some > kind of copying. > > When I manage to bollix one so badly that I can't get online with > it (about every couple years), the others are ready to spring into the > breach. > > But their actual use is to take some of the load off #1 by > running stuff like weather and GPS/topo maps, where I don't need to c&p > between what's running and anything else -- particularly Gmane/usenet > groups and email. > > I used to use tar and scp to another machine to back up what I > wanted to keep, whenever I did a fresh install. Then I discovered I was > omitting a switch from my tar command, which affected permissions. > > So I took to burning stuff to media, using K3B or Brasero, and > copying it back, all by click-&-drag. > > Then about Fedora 8 or 9, I started discovering permission > trouble that way -- scattered, randomly afaict, all through /home/btth, > and maybe also elsewhere. (I'm running Fedora 10 now.) > > Chown -R btth:btth /home/btth/* and chown -R btth:btth /home/ > btth/.* don't seem to fix it. I run Gnome and metacity, no compiz; so I > go from the desktop with nautilus (I guess it is -- clicking and > dragging, anyhow), opening Properties > Permissions, looking for padlocks > and getting rid of them. > > I think I understand the idea of permissions, but I can never > keep the notation straight -- either kind of notation, with hyphens or > numbers. > > Otoh, nobody but me does anything with any of my machines; so I > see no great increase of risk in opening permissions way up. I hope > that's right. (My LAN is of course behind a router, and I run denyhosts > except when I want to use ssh a/o scp between two. Ssh is set never to > let anybody log in from outside the house.) > > So much for the general case, as background. As for present > specifics, I'm really bewildered to hear I have permission trouble with > files I have just created for the first time, as user. > > Maybe I need to go to the fedora list, a/o my LUG, and start a > permissions thread -- if I can figure out how. Is it possible something > is wrong with the way my userid is set up??
I had this problem once and found the solution to be somewhat simple. There are a couple of ways to troubleshoot permission problems even though the username may be the same. I'd recommend looking in each system's /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow to make sure your user information is the same on each system. Case in point, when I created my username on my first install of slackware it gave me UID 500, whereas RH had given me UID 1000. Thus, even though rinaldi owned all the files in ~/, with the wrong UID I couldn't access any of them. -- -Rinaldi- When someone says "I want a programming language in which I need only say what I wish done," give him a lollipop. _______________________________________________ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-users
