Maurice Batey <maur...@bcs.org.uk> posted pan.2009.01.03.18.44.32.342...@bcs.org.uk, excerpted below, on Sat, 03 Jan 2009 18:44:32 +0000:
> Having just discovered the newsgroup I've unsubscribed from the > mailing-list, and just wanted to check I can post here... You can. Welcome to the newsgroup version! =;^) There is one annoyance, the encrypted mail addresses, which is a per-list/ group gmane option to help control spam to the list. If I need a mail address and the group is encrypted, I ask people to post it in name at domain format so the encryptor doesn't mess with it. Two other things to be aware of: 1) Due to the list/group interface, gmane doesn't always handle cross- posts as a normal newsserver would. In particular, because crossposts normally come in via mail as separate messages to the separate lists/ groups, if there's not enough information in the message itself to note the crosspost (what constitutes enough info I don't know, maybe only posts that originate with gmane?), gmane will post the first one to come in using its normal message-id, then have to change message-ids to avoid duplicates when the message comes in for other lists, because it doesn't know it's a cross-post in that case. Of course, this is only an issue for crossposts, but it's something to be aware of when dealing with crossposts, if you notice strange behavior with them. 2) I've been using gmane for some time. Twice during that time, apparently some idiot with a similar IP address (likely the same subnet of some size, I don't know how big) attacked gmane, either DoSing them or spamming them. Anyway, the subnet including my IP address was temporarily blocked from gmane news access as a result. If this happens, you won't see an error. You'll just not get any updates for awhile. Or at least that's the way it worked here. If you're lucky that'll never happen to you, but if it does, once you realize it, there's several things you can do. First, you can still use the gmane web interface -- it's only the news interface that gets blocked. Of course the web interface lacks the convenient auto-tracking of what you've read and what you haven't so it's terribly hard to keep up with conversations, but it'll do in a pinch. Second, you can post (using the web interface) a request to gmane.discuss, saying you're blocked and could they investigate and narrow the block or whatever. I had to do that the first time. The second resolved itself faster, tho I'm not sure whether that was gmane, or that I got a different IP address on a different not-blocked subnet, or what. Third, you can of course then go change your mail subscription back to normal, so it sends you the messages and you reply via mail. IIRC I did that for one or two of my higher volume lists the first time it happened. As I said the second resolved itself fast enough (~3 days to a week, IIRC) that I didn't get around to worrying about it. But for the most part it's trouble-free, and anyway, the few problems there are have been less hassle than tracking the list by mail would have been. =:^) -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman _______________________________________________ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-users