Good advice. In the meantime:
Download and burn a cd from the latest Damnsmalllinux iso. Boot from the cd preferably with the toram and dma boot options. If already connected to a broadband modem you will already be on the net. Install the gtk2-2.12.9.uci extension from the MyDSL browser (or one of the other gtk2 extensions). Install my pan-0.133 uci extension the same way. Launch pan. Configure your servers. Happy usenet. Whose says you can't be ahead of Ubuntu applications-wise with an old 2.4.31 kernel and even older glibc6? --- On Mon, 15/12/08, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > From: Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> > Subject: [Pan-users] Re: compile ? > To: pan-users@nongnu.org > Date: Monday, 15 December, 2008, 6:52 AM > "Travis" <travis.shorel...@gmail.com> posted > 2b4372f548fa41caaf78f5921184b...@travispc, excerpted below, > on Sun, 14 > Dec 2008 15:29:28 -0800: > > > I appreciate everyone trying to help but with several > people responding > > with slightly different instructions I'm finding > it difficult to follow. > > Here's something to save for later -- it's not > going to be much help > right now for this particular project, but it'll be a > LOT of help overall. > > You mention elsewhere that you want to keep to the command > line for this, > which is I think a good decision since it's both > directions and feedback > are easier (given it's a mailing list we're using) > on the command line. > > The below is a suggestion only. Feel free to disregard it, > but I'll tell > you one thing, it saved me literally hundreds of hours (I > figure at least > three months worth of full-time 40 hour week equivilent, > 500 hours worth, > and it could easily have been a thousand hours worth) of > screwing around > ineffectively trying to learn stuff on my own. > > Get the books Running Linux, and preferably Linux in a > Nutshell, as > well. They're both O'Reilly Publishing. Running > Linux is several > hundred pages (the old edition I used was 600+) arranged > pretty much like > a textbook or tutorial, easy/basic stuff at the front, > harder stuff at > the back. I read it almost cover to cover, tho I did only > skim or speed- > read some chapters. It emphasizes the command line for > probably 2/3s of > the book, teaching, for the most part, tools that are on > all > distributions. If you read thru most of it, you'll > have a very good > understanding of the basics, including being able to > compile stuff > yourself and something about how it works and > configuration, so you can > fix some of the simplest problems. Not only will you have > a very good > understanding of the basics, but you'll be on your way > to being a Linux > power user! > > While Running Linux is structured like a textbook, so is > good for > learning stuff as a newbie, Linux in a Nutshell is > structured as a good > reference manual. You won't use it so much learning > the basics, but > after you do, you'll find yourself reaching for Linux > in a Nutshell time > and again, just to refresh yourself on command line > options. To this day > (something like seven years later), I keep a copy within > reach when I'm > working at the computer, with bookmarks in a couple spots > (the bash test > command parameters, bash substitution, and the regex > reference), and use > it for other lookups reasonably frequently as well. I wore > out my first > copy, got a second, updated version, and have now rather > worn it out as > well and need to get a third copy! > > Together these books will probably cost you around $100 US; > they cost me > $70 at Fry's Electronics some years ago, but what is > your time worth to > you? Even at near minimum wage, say $7 an hour, that 500 > hours I figure > they EASILY saved me mean they'd be worth $3500!! > Obviously you'd not > pay that for them, but that's about the conservative > best estimate I can > give of what I consider the knowledge they gave me worth to > me. If > you're serious about learning Linux to the point where > you are actually > comfortable with it and effective using it, those books are > worth the > money many many times over! I consider the recommendation > I got for them > and the decision to follow it very near to the best in my > life, with the > decision to actually switch to Linux being very close. But > I'd have been > lost had I tried to switch without something like those > books, and > honestly, I'm not sure I would have stuck with it. > After all, I was > already a Windows power user with over a decade of > experience there, and > I was finding it VERY frustrating how impotent I felt on > Linux -- I > couldn't do /anything/! Those books changed all that, > and did so in a > matter of months! > > As I said, it's your choice, but that's one choice > I'm very glad I made, > and I really hate to think how difficult it would have been > or how long > it would have taken to come to the same level, without > them. If you're > serious about learning Linux, there's no better > investment you can make, > than the purchase and time necessary to read those books! > > -- > Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. > "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- > and if you use the program, he is your master." > Richard Stallman > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pan-users mailing list > Pan-users@nongnu.org > http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-users _______________________________________________ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-users
