On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 12:00:37 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Send Pan-users mailing list submissions to > pan-users@nongnu.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Pan-users digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: setting PAN_HOME *does* work; moving doesnt (Michel Doodeman) > 2. Re: Re: setting PAN_HOME *does* work; moving doesnt (Beso) > 3. Re: setting PAN_HOME *does* work; moving doesnt (Duncan) > 4. Re: setting PAN_HOME *does* work; moving doesnt (Duncan) > 5. Re: setting PAN_HOME *does* work; moving doesnt (SciFi) > 6. Re: setting PAN_HOME *does* work; moving doesnt (Duncan) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 20:37:02 +0100 > From: Michel Doodeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [Pan-users] Re: setting PAN_HOME *does* work; moving doesnt > To: pan-users@nongnu.org > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 20:50:52 +0000 > > From: Beso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: [Pan-users] setting PAN_HOME doesnt work > > To: pan-users@nongnu.org > > Message-ID: > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > 2008/11/26 Michel Doodeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > As can be read in the subject: I have a question about the Pan settings > > > variable because it fails me. I just cannot get it to work. If I set it > > > to whatever directory, e.g. with 'export PAN_HOME=/home/ice/.pan300' (and > > > the directory is present indeed), Pan still wants me to add servers from > > > scratch after launching. I echoed the environment to verify its value. > > > > > > So in other words, it does not read the alternative path in which > > > settings can be found. Am I overlooking something? > > > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > > how do you start pan? you should start it from the shell in which you > > set the export or set the pan home as env variable. > > else it will apply only to the shell session in which you lauched the > > export. > > Ah yes. That does the trick indeed. What I did was exporting the path, then > starting it from menu. The original ~/.pan2 was differently renamed. So > logically Pan prompted me to add servers. This brings me to another point: > > If Pan has been configured and its settings are stored to ~/.pan2 and you > then export PAN_HOME to e.g. ~/.pan300 and start pan, all groups disappeared. > Both 'subscribed' and 'other'. If I refresh the grouplist I can see the > newsgroups I once was subscribed to, displayed again. In bold, under the > 'other groups'. > When I exit, again all groups disappeared from the list. I assume this > shouldnt happen. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 21:08:00 +0000 > From: Beso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Pan-users] Re: setting PAN_HOME *does* work; moving > doesnt > To: pan-users@nongnu.org > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > 2008/11/27 Michel Doodeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Message: 2 > >> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 20:50:52 +0000 > >> From: Beso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Subject: Re: [Pan-users] setting PAN_HOME doesnt work > >> To: pan-users@nongnu.org > >> Message-ID: > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > >> > >> 2008/11/26 Michel Doodeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> > > >> > Hello, > >> > > >> > As can be read in the subject: I have a question about the Pan settings > >> > variable because it fails me. I just cannot get it to work. If I set it > >> > to whatever directory, e.g. with 'export PAN_HOME=/home/ice/.pan300' > >> > (and the directory is present indeed), Pan still wants me to add servers > >> > from scratch after launching. I echoed the environment to verify its > >> > value. > >> > > >> > So in other words, it does not read the alternative path in which > >> > settings can be found. Am I overlooking something? > >> > > >> > Thanks in advance > >> > > >> how do you start pan? you should start it from the shell in which you > >> set the export or set the pan home as env variable. > >> else it will apply only to the shell session in which you lauched the > >> export. > > > > Ah yes. That does the trick indeed. What I did was exporting the path, then > > starting it from menu. The original ~/.pan2 was differently renamed. So > > logically Pan prompted me to add servers. This brings me to another point: > > > > If Pan has been configured and its settings are stored to ~/.pan2 and you > > then export PAN_HOME to e.g. ~/.pan300 and start pan, all groups > > disappeared. Both 'subscribed' and 'other'. If I refresh the grouplist I > > can see the newsgroups I once was subscribed to, displayed again. In bold, > > under the 'other groups'. > > When I exit, again all groups disappeared from the list. I assume this > > shouldnt happen. > > > copying over the .pan2 contents into the new location should be enough. > for example if you use it with the same user just doing a cp -a > ~/.pan2/* ~/.pan300/ would do a copy of the old .pan2 working dir in > the new location. under the groups directory you should have a list of > groups, which are the actual subscribed groups and that contain > the articles fetched in them. at every restart pan should be able to > read the contents of these files and understand that they're > subscribed groups. from your description it seems that he recognizes > that he has articles fetched in these groups (the bold usually means > that there are new articles inside the groups) but doesn't recognize > that you've subscribed them. try lookin in the left pane (the group > one) as you should be able to filter by macro categories (subscribed > and other groups). after subscribing one group usually pan moves the > group from the other groups grouping to the subscribed one.
That's the thing: I also copied with the -a switch, so it should be a 1 on 1 copy. When I set PAN_HOME to the new content, all groups have gone while they ought to be in the grouplist. Filtering won't help, there are simply 0 groups. > but i've also noticed a strange thing: for some reason when i try to > copy the .pan2 folder of another user this ends to be broken. pan > isn't able to read the data stored in the folder from the other user. > and the contents of the files inside pan2 directory has exactly the > same format and intestation. on this issue, if this would apply to > you, i call out duncan as i think he might be able to figure out > something of his bigger knowledge about this project. > > -- > dott. ing. beso > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 00:55:16 +0000 (UTC) > From: Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [Pan-users] Re: setting PAN_HOME *does* work; moving doesnt > To: pan-users@nongnu.org > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Michel Doodeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted > [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on > Thu, 27 Nov 2008 20:37:02 +0100: > > > If Pan has been configured and its settings are stored to ~/.pan2 and > > you then export PAN_HOME to e.g. ~/.pan300 and start pan, all groups > > disappeared. Both 'subscribed' and 'other'. If I refresh the grouplist I > > can see the newsgroups I once was subscribed to, displayed again. In > > bold, under the 'other groups'. When I exit, again all groups > > disappeared from the list. I assume this shouldnt happen. > > I think Beso missed the significance of what you said... > > No, if you've exported PAN_HOME pointing at other than the default > ~/.pan2, and where you pointed it is empty, pan should NOT know anything > about your old subscriptions, including NOT being able to BOLD them > because it shouldn't know anything about the other location at all -- > it's being pointed at a new one. > > However, someone earlier posted a comment to the effect that a few of the > paths in pan are still hard-coded -- they don't obey PAN_HOME. > Apparently, the subscribed groups list does obey PAN_HOME, thus, no > subscribed groups when you're pointing PAN_HOME at an empty location, but > the generic all-group list remains hard-coded and looks at the old > location, regardless, and BOLDs those groups that have xref message > sequence numbers attached (these are in the group list, IIRC). If that's > correct (and I've not tested it myself to be sure yet), that's a bug, and > if there's not yet one filed on it, there should be. > > -- > Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. > "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- > and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 00:58:16 +0000 (UTC) > From: Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [Pan-users] Re: setting PAN_HOME *does* work; moving doesnt > To: pan-users@nongnu.org > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Beso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted > [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted > below, on Thu, 27 Nov 2008 21:08:00 +0000: > > > but i've also noticed a strange thing: for some reason when i try to > > copy the .pan2 folder of another user this ends to be broken. pan isn't > > able to read the data stored in the folder from the other user. and the > > contents of the files inside pan2 directory has exactly the same format > > and intestation. on this issue, if this would apply to you, i call out > > duncan as i think he might be able to figure out something of his bigger > > knowledge about this project. > > See my reply at the sibling level to yours for one possibility/bug, but > the one that sticks out here is permissions. You said you copied the > data over, but you didn't mention changing the permissions so the new > user can read it. Did you forget to change permissions, or did you > forget to mention doing so? =:^) > > -- > Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. > "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- > and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 03:18:24 +0000 (UTC) > From: SciFi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [Pan-users] Re: setting PAN_HOME *does* work; moving doesnt > To: pan-users@nongnu.org > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > Hi, > > My post on this is not two___weeks old yet, it is archived here: > > http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.pan.user/10446 > > (seems this is a difficult symptom to search for ___ or ___) > > :) > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 04:19:34 +0000 (UTC) > From: Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [Pan-users] Re: setting PAN_HOME *does* work; moving doesnt > To: pan-users@nongnu.org > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > SciFi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted > [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Fri, 28 Nov 2008 > 03:18:24 +0000: > > > My post on this is not two___weeks old yet, it is archived here: > > > > http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.pan.user/10446 > > > > (seems this is a difficult symptom to search for ___ or ___) > > That was it; you were the "someone". =:^) > > -- > Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. > "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- > and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Pan-users mailing list > Pan-users@nongnu.org > http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-users > > > End of Pan-users Digest, Vol 72, Issue 21 > ***************************************** -- Michel Doodeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> _______________________________________________ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-users
