-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Duncan schrieb:
Hi! If the problem at Pan or the news server? Ciao Kai | walt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted | [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:51:23 | +0000: | |> Maybe someone (Duncan?) who knows the nntp protocol better than I do |> could comment. Here is my telnet session with news.ecomstation.nl: |> |> CAPABILITIES |> 500 Command not implemented. |> |> HELP |> LIST [ACTIVE|NEWSGROUPS|DISTRIBUTIONS|SUBSCRIPTIONS|OVERVIEW.FMT| |> ACTIVE.TIMES] [wildmat] |> |> LIST NEWSGROUPS |> 503 No list of newsgroup descriptions available. |> |> Seems to me that the server is not in compliance with the nntp protocol. |> This is from RFC 3977: |> 5.2. CAPABILITIES |> 5.2.1. Usage |> This command is mandatory. |> Syntax |> CAPABILITIES [keyword] | | Not that this really pertains to the problem at hand, but since my name | was mentioned... | | Frankly, you know that aspect of the protocol better than I do. True, I | could look it up if actually needed, but I didn't know CAPABILITIES was | even a command. That's arbitrary knowledge that I don't tend to store, | unless it's something I work with enough to know from pure repetitive | practice, or just happen to have it fresh in my mind from working with it. | | OTOH, it's possible I have a better gut level understanding of protocol | basic functionality, such as why TCP/IP instead of UDP/IP was chosen as | the underlying protocol to build upon and the nature of the TCP/IP | connection, due simply to the way my long-term memory mapping | functionality works. Arbitray facts such as command names and command | line switches aren't retained because the don't map, while I'm /forced/ | to groke the underlying functionality in ordered to make the necessary | for retention logical connections to previously mapped information. | | I retrieve info the same way, the reason my posts (hmm, good case in | point right here! =8^) tend toward the long and explanitory, since I | can't retrieve one datum without dragging out all this stuff connected to | it as well. That's one negative. The other is that since I /must/ | create such a functional/causitive mapping in ordered to retain the | concept, in the absence of correct information, I'll sometimes come to an | incorrect conclusion and map that. That has proven embarassing on | occasion. =8^( | | One positive, other than the obvious one of having what seems to be an | "intuitive" (once mapped, it's often hard work attaining that so-called | "intuition") grasp of the concepts, is that having retained the concepts, | the rest is nearly always available in the manpage or with a google or | etc. I do seem to find myself referring to manpages and the like far | more often than I believe most would, for "the arbitraries", so it's a | very good thing for me such references are available! =8^) | | Interesting thing, the mind, and how it works differently for different | people! =8^) | - -- - --------------------------------------------------------------- | geschrieben mit Mozilla Thunderbird 2.0 unter openSUSE 10.3 | - --------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIiJZUuDk4DUGRzxoRAkNCAJ9xbFD7qzjLGzuzkJalBOtrkjiNwgCfcMsv CUzSTAlN+z6RQCuX3HmCLAU= =t2pO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-users