Joe Zeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:32:38 -0700:
> On 06/26/2008 Ben Bullock wrote: >> I don't think there is a way to do it. >> >> I reported this as a bug: >> >> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=527799 >> >> I also spent some time (a few hours) looking through the source code to >> find where the bug might reside, but without success. > > Thank you. I'll add myself to the CC list so that I can track it. I > take it, then, that there's no way to set up a filter that will do this? > If so, that'd be all I'd need. Unfortunately, new-pan has only half the required functionality. As you observed, you can killfile someone. That's great, but only half the solution. Old-pan had a mechanism called rules which allowed you to take actions based on scores (among other things). It was possible to setup a rule that marked-read or deleted a post based on its score. In the other direction, it was also possible to mark a file for automatic download based on its score (say watched). I had pan setup to auto-delete messages scored as ignored, as I NEVER wanted to see them, auto-mark-read messages scored less than zero (low/negative), as I didn't want to see them normally but wanted them still available if someone else replied to them and I wanted/needed to see the context, and auto-download anything that was scored positively (medium, high, or watched). That was great! Unfortunately, Charles hasn't implemented anything like that in the rewrite yet. As with attachment posting (a different current thread), it's a bit of the perfect being the enemy of the good, as Charles' opinion is that the rules functionality as implemented in old pan was too complex and difficult to understand. At least the functionality was THERE back then! =8^( A replacement design has been discussed. Basically the UI as discussed would create a new tab in preferences that looked something like this: Automatically: Download files scored at least [dropdown] Mark-read files scored at most [dropdown] Delete files scored at most [dropdown] The dropdown would then include the following choices based on the same scoring "zones" seen in the color preferences: Disabled Ignored ( <= -9999 ) Low/negative (-9998 to -1 ) Zero ( 0 ) Medium ( +1 to 4999 ) High (5000 to 9998) Watched ( >= 9999 ) There has been a bit of discussion as to what the defaults should be. Disabled for all three would prevent any surprises for upgraders. Delete ignored, mark-read negative, download watched, might be the most logical, but would probably make a few people mad when they discovered ignored was actually doing just that, now, effectively ignoring the post on the server. That choice could also lead to some false bug reports as people wondered what happened to messages they saw replies to but had never seen (not realizing the message had been scored ignore for some reason). Mark- read ignored, download watched, would be a slightly more conservative version of the above, but could still lead to false bug reports when people didn't realize a post had been marked read due to score, and that was why they didn't see it. I suspect Charles would probably take the safe route and disable all three by default. In any case, /nothing/ has been implemented yet, and it's a sorely missed bit of functionality! =8^( Meanwhile, there's a couple workarounds. For those who don't save posts as marked unread to check later, as I often do, the mark entire group read when exiting group and/or before getting new headers options on the behavior tab of preferences might be helpful. Unfortunately, that's not going to work for folks like me who deliberately keep some posts marked unread and want them to stay that way until we get back to them. What I do instead is keep ignored posts visible, and manually delete them as I come to them -- I keep the score column visible and have my colors set to I see them right away. This works reasonably well for text groups. For binary groups, I don't so often keep messages marked unread, and threading is less of an issue, so I can either sort by score and delete, or simply select-all and delete the entire set when I'm done with it, depending on the group and whether I have anything in it I want to keep around for awhile, or not. It'd sure be nice to have the options as described above, tho, and actually have it working again! That's for sure! -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman _______________________________________________ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-users
