Jim Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Thu, 05 Jun 2008 21:23:39 +0000:
> On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:50:06 -0700, Peter Scott wrote: > >> Is there any automated assistance available? > > Nope. New pan and Old pan are completely different. Well, not /completely/. Some of the files are the same, some different. I must admit it has been awhile since anyone asked and I may have forgotten some details. If you look back in the list archives a couple years, you'll see answers from that time with the details if I'm missing any here. That said... The main thing that's similar is the scorefile, but there's some differences as the new format is stricter. It's based on the same thing, slrn/xnews scorefile format, but the newsgroups line syntax of xnews uses regex like the other matching test lines, while slrn uses plain * wildcard lines. Old-pan tried to accomodate both styles, detecting on the fly for each newsgroup line as it read it, which style was used, but it was always buggy, so Charles decided to go with a stricter slrn newsgroup line format (only) in new-pan. Thus, if your newsgroups lines were all * wildcard format, the file should be directly transferrable, but if as mine was, all newsgroups lines were regex format, you'll have some editing to do. That said, I took the opportunity to vastly simplify my scores, so that hundreds of individual scores were combined into now, just 6 scores in 2 scoring sections, according to the pan log. Here's the official scorefile docs for both slrn and xnews: http://www.slrn.org/docs/score.txt http://xnews.remarqs.net/scoring.txt Again, the pan format is now very close to the slrn format, except that pan's scorefile is case insensitive and (AFAIK) doesn't include the fancy stuff like file includes. Also, while the slrn scoring system allows tests on any header tho it encourages use of overview headers only, pan /only/ allows overview header testing. Others will be ignored... unfortunately. Here's a quick (edited for posting) example taken from my scorefile, with comments, to illustrate compound scoring, which as I said, allowed me to condense well over a hundred scores down to just six in two sections: % PAN scorefile % Very close to SLRN's format at. % http://www.slrn.org/docs/score.txt % but with case insensitivity (not other differences) from % xnews at http://xnews.remarqs.net/scoring.txt % [newsgroup.*] wildcard (not regex) format (~ negates). % header lines regex. (~ negates). % Score conditions, single : and, double :: or. % Expires: immed. below score if present. % Leading % indicates comment % Leading whitespace and blank lines ignored. % Regex and newsgroup matches case insensitive with % keyword:, sensitive with keyword=. % Newsgroup change delimits section,. % Score delimits "rule", multiple rules per section allowed. % Comment after score becomes rule "name". % Score levels: <=-9999 kill, -9998 to -1 low, % 0, 1 - 4999 med, 5000 - 9998 high, >=9999 watch %######################################################################## %######################################################################## [alt.*] Score:: =-9999 %Alt kill <------>From: ^karlz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>$ <------>From: Seeking teens <------>From: teens seeker <------>From: triki <------>From: ^LoLiTa < <------>From: ^GOBLIN < <------>From: ^moe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>$ <------>From: sex coed <------>Subject: adult movies <------>Subject: dupped <------>Subject: ^\([-0-9/]*\) <------>Subject: Use critical pack from Microsoft Corporation <------>Subject: R/-\\PE <------>Subject: R/-\|PE %######################################################################## %######################################################################## [cox.*] Score:: =9999 %Cox Watched (Cox employee) <------>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>$ <------>From: CoxTech1 <------>From: ^David Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>$ Score:: 100 %Cox Med <------>From: ^Conrad J\. Sabatier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>$ <------>From: ^Jim Rusling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>$ <------>From: ^Todd Knarr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>$ Score:: 5000 %Cox Hi <------>From: ^Lenroc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>$ <------>From: ^Mag.. 2.... <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Score:: =-9999 %Cox Kill (repeat-kill) <------>From: ^"John Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>$ <------>From: John Shocked <------>From: You Got Punked\, Bitch %######################################################################## Score:: =-9999 <------>%Score created by Pan on Thu Apr 26 01:59:31 2007 <------>Expires: 10/29/2007 <------>From: ^"snake plisken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>$ <------>%Score created by Pan on Wed Jul 25 10:58:05 2007 <------>Expires: 1/27/2008 <------>From: ^common_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] %######################################################################## %######################################################################## Obviously, a leading % indicates a comment, and you can see I've used that to good effect. The newsgroup lines form the sections. I was able to combine everything into just two, the alt.* scores and the cox.* (Cox being my ISP) scores. You may have additional sections if you subscribe to groups in multiple hierarchies. Each score line delimits a rule. Scores can have multiple conditions, as mine do. A single : ANDs the conditions, but I wanted to OR them, matching if ANY were true, thus the double ::. As you can see, I grouped all the commonly scored tests together, thus the form a single "score". It's worth noting the blank lines in the middle of the scores, as between subject and author above. That's fine. I dislike all the extra comments pan puts in. They are mostly just extra noise for me, so as you can see, I eliminated most of them. On the two "temporary" entries (single score line so single score) at the bottom, now expired, I kept the create date as pertinent since they had an expiry. The others are permanent, so needed no create date info. The double comment-hash lines at the bottom are there to keep any new scores I add, that I've not yet edited, separate from the others. That way it's easy to go in and put them where they belong later, when I decide to hand edit the file again. Other than the scorefile, nearly everything else is different. Most of it needed to be as the automated multi-server handling changed the rules enough that the old formats didn't make a lot of sense any more. The other exception (that I recall) is the cache format, which is the same. If you have a huge cache, you can carry it over. Talking about which... there are a number of "undocumented" options available in new-pan only by editing the config directly -- that is, they aren't available in the GUI. One of these is cache size. I download to cache, then save off from there, so the default 10 MB cache size is way too small for me. I use a multi-gigabyte cache size, changing the appropriate line in preferences.xml. It's also possible to get more than four connections per server now, by editing the appropriate entry in servers.xml. pan sticks to GNKSA which only allows four per server in the GUI, but some pay servers allow eight connections, for example, and that's now possible by editing the config directly. Similarly, the expire is tracked in days in servers.xml. The GUI limits you to only a few choices, but you can put whatever number of days you want by editing the file directly. Finally, many people find the new single list of groups hard to work with. While that's coded in, there's a workaround. Pan honors the PAN_HOME environmental variable if set, so it's possible to setup multiple separate pan instances, each with its own settings, kept in different dirs. Here, I have three instances, text, binary, and test. Others may find movies, tv-shows, etc, work for them, and some may wish to split out their porn from everything else, especially if they have kids (or Moms) around. I created launcher scripts (pan.text, pan.bin, etc) that set the variable to point to the appropriate config, and then created kmenu entries for each launcher script, instead of having just the single pan entry. (Users with a separate porn config may wish to keep that one out of their menu... only those who type it in correctly in the open dialog or terminal window will get the porn instance.) HTH! =8^) -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman _______________________________________________ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-users
