On Fri, 11 May 2007 04:22:50 +0000, Duncan wrote: >> 1. Sometimes when I pull down new messages, I see the new message >> header count in the newsgroup list, and if I go through all of the >> messages that are unread, Pan tells me that there is still an unread >> message. I've assigned a hotkey to the "read/unread" item in the >> header view menu, and if I show all messages and then immediately show >> the unread messages, the remaining unread messages show up. There >> doesn't seem to be a pattern to this behaviour, at least not that I can >> see. > > Someone else with a hotkey on read/unread. =8^) > > I don't see this particular bug, however. The unread count seems > accurate to me (tho I tend to go months without doing binaries at all, > and it's been exactly that, and text groups don't have the raw post > quantity so may not trigger the issue).
I rarely do binaries, and I see it frequently - even in text-only groups with a low traffic rate. For instance, I monitor a private server's control.cancel group, and usually there's only a handful of messages in there, but I almost never see the new messages without doing the read/ unread thing. >> 3. It would also be nice if the group list could be sorted by news >> server - I'm still getting used to having all the groups in one list, >> but having groups from one news server interspersed with groups from >> another news server causes me to have to shift gears more often than I >> otherwise would. > > This won't work particularly well, since most groups will be on most > servers. Maybe for you, but not for me. I use forums.novell.com, news.povray.org, news.vmware.com, and a couple others - all special-purpose servers with their own distinct sets of newsgroups. > Something that /would/ work would be user categorization, the > ability to have multiple user labeled categories under subscribed groups > into which users could separate their groups. However, that's almost > certainly a post-1.0 feature (but a much requested one which shouldn't > be an extreme amount of work, so it should eventually appear). Cool, that would work fine for me as well, and ultimately I think is probably the better solution - I'm all in favor of that kind of flexibility. > Meanwhile, something you CAN do is create multiple pan instances, each > with its own settings. Here, I have a text instance, a binary instance, > and a test instance, but one could arrange it however they wanted. Yes, that *could* work, but in terms of operational efficiency, obviously this is less than optimal. This is functionality I use from old pan with the different servers from the menu - I'm actually liking the unified view the more I use it (it's saving me keystrokes, not a bad thing at all), but because all the servers I use hold different groups, I have, for example, irtc.* (from povray's news server) near the top but the povray.* groups appear after my novell.* groups. This means that mentally I have to switch from hobby to work and back to hobby when I'm going through the groups. >> 4. I like how the posting profile is determined automatically most of >> the time - it would be nice, though, if a posting profile could be used >> on multiple servers - I use the same name and fake e-mail address on >> two servers, and have two profiles set up for that purpose now. Not a >> big deal now that it's set up, but it took a minute to figure out why I >> was receiving an error while trying to post. Maybe the posting server >> could be set to use the server hosting the group (or a primary server >> hosting the group if you're subscribed to multiple servers holding the >> same group) with the posting profile selection being able to override >> what Pan figures out on its own. > > Putting the posting server to use in the posting profile was a bit of a > hack. I suggested it and Charles used it as no one had a better > suggestion. Before that, pan would post using the first configured > server that happened to carry a group, which often wasn't the desired > behavior at all, but hadn't been configurable. When the discussion came > up as to where exactly to put the posting server setting, such that it > could be set for each group separately, I suggested putting it in the > posting profile, as it seemed logical to me that it would be configured > in the same place as all the other posting preferences, and that one > could simply choose one of possibly several posting profiles for a group > and set everything about posting, handle/email, sig, custom headers, and > server to use, all at once. However, not everybody seems to think it's > as intuitive a place for it as it seems to me as others have had > comments similar to yours, and Charles said he wasn't entirely happy > with it either. Only nobody else could come up with anything better, so > that's what was used. If you believe you have a better idea, by all > means, let's discuss it. I can't say I'll like it better personally as > this one seems perfectly intuitive to me, but as I said, it's not always > so for others, so maybe there's something better only nobody has figured > it out yet. =8^) Now that I've played with it a bit more, it seems to be slightly broken - I added a second posting profile for one of the servers for a specific group where I wanted a - shall we say - more controversial sig line - and now it seems to pick that for all my gmane groups as well unless I explicitly tell it which profile to use. I'm guessing the duplicate server name is throwing it off. >> 5. It would be helpful if the scores for a thread were calculated and >> that value displayed when a thread is not expanded. > > I use expanded by default, so wouldn't find this of much use here, but > I'm sure many would. I also noticed that if you view "watched" (with the button), it shows just the messages that are watched rather than the thread - because of the way I work, this is less useful, because I need to be able to see the whole thread. Jim _______________________________________________ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-users
