Mark Healey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Thu, 18 Jan 2007 21:09:20 -0800:
> I just installed FC6 which came with Pan version .120, It seems to be > lacking some features form whatever version came with earlier versions > of Fedora. Probably old (like two years, longer since anything serious was done) C coded pan 0.14.x. New pan (0.90 was the first public release) is an entirely new ground-up rewrite in C++. Yeah, some of the features of old-pan have yet to make it into new-pan, while others simply haven't been found to be requested by enough people yet. Still, the new features and HUGELY improved memory scaling make new-pan worth the trouble, particularly for heavy binary group users. > It seems that you can only add filtering (scoring) rules. I can't find > out how to name them or modify them later. There's no pan interface for it, but it's simple enough to just open up the Score file (by default, ~/.pan2/Score, but ~/news/Score I believe it is, will be used if it's there) in your favorite text editor and edit the text! =8^) Pan's score file format is compatible with slrn, with the exception that pan's format is case insensitive (there's a way to make it case sensitive if necessary, but insensitive is usually preferred anyway). Here's the slrn doc: http://www.slrn.org/docs/score.txt Note that if you've been doing all your management thru pan, there'll be a lot of extraneous info in there, mostly comments, but even what's real scoring info will be all sorts of disordered. Using the above documentation, I was able to cut something approaching 100 rules down to ... pan now reports six rules in two sections. The rules are compound, with multiple triggering matches per rule. Here's an edited version of my current score file, including comments. I deleted many individual entries leaving a few to show the style, and changed email addresses to email.deleted as necessary (the ones in the kill are trolls and apparently munged anyway, so I left them as-is, tho of course those on gmane aren't likely to see them that way due to its munging). ----- % PAN scorefile % Very close to SLRN's format at http://www.slrn.org/docs/score.txt but with case % insensitivity (not other differences) from xnews at http://xnews.remarqs.net/scoring.txt % [newsgroup.*] wildcard (not regex) format (~ negates). % header lines regex. (~ negates). % Score conditions, single : and, double :: or. % Expires: immed. below score if present. % Leading % indicates comment, leading whitespace and blank lines ignored. % Regex and newsgroup matches case insensitive with keyword:, sensitive with keyword=. % Newsgroup change delimits section, Score delimits "rule", multiple rules per section allowed. % Comment after score becomes rule "name". % Score levels: <=-9999 kill, -9998 to -1 low, 0, 1 - 4999 med, 5000 - 9998 high, >=9999 watch %############################################################################### %############################################################################### [alt.*] Score:: =-9999 %Alt kill From: voyeur only From: amateur From: SEXmag Subject: Use critical pack from Microsoft Corporation Subject: R/-\\PE Subject: R/-\|PE Subject: britney spears %############################################################################### %############################################################################### [cox.*] Score:: =9999 %Cox Watched (Cox employee) From: <email.deleted>$ From: ^Jay Munsterman <email.deleted>$ From: ^Steven Flynn <email.deleted>$ From: CoxTech1 From: ^David Knight <email.deleted>$ Score:: 100 %Cox Med From: ^Conrad J\. Sabatier <email.deleted>$ From: ^Jim Rusling <email.deleted>$ From: ^Todd Knarr <email.deleted>$ Score:: 5000 %Cox Hi From: ^Lenroc <email.deleted>$ From: ^Mag® 2º.. <email.deleted>$ Score:: =-9999 %Cox Kill (repeat-kill) From: ^"John Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>$ From: John Shocked From: You Got Punked\, Bitch From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> %############################################################################### %2006.02.10 Score: =-9999 Expires: 2/10/2007 From:: ^Vegas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>$ %############################################################################### %############################################################################### ----- As you can see, I start with a some terse format reminder comments and a pointer to the doc. The sections are offset with ### comments, and the temporary entries kept separate from the others for easy tracking and deletion when they expire. As I said, there are way more entries than that, I just edited them here for appropriateness and space reasons. > It also only highlights the score column according instead of the whole > line. I think this was intended as a "feature", but it bothers me too, tho not enough to have filed an actual bug on it. I'd not be surprised to find someone else had done so, however. > As for the score filtering in the header sub menu under the view menu I > don't under stand why there isn't just a dialog where the user can input > a range. Because the preset ranges are the same ones pan uses for coloring. Consistency in GUI. =8^) > The other changes all seem to be improvements. The biggest feature a lot of folks still miss is the ability to setup rules. However, the most common use of rules was for auto-download on the one hand, or auto-mark-read and/or auto-delete on the other. Charles decided the rules implementation was too confusing, and in previous discussions it was basically agreed that at minimum, checkbox preferences for scoring actions to automatically: * delete ignored, * mark-read low (below zero) scored, * download watched, should be added. Since it would be easy to do if that's implemented, additional options to download high and medium scored posts and to mark-read instead of delete ignored posts, would likely be added at the same time, assuming Charles hasn't decided that makes the preferences too complex. Talking about complex preferences, be aware that there are a number of advanced options not available in the GUI precisely to keep down the complexity, but still exposed to the advanced user in the config files themselves. Examples are cache size (default is 10MB, I have my binary pan instance set to 12 gigabytes since I prefer to download to cache than clear it manually, and my text pan instance set to 5 GB, since I want to keep stuff around), expiry (the GUI lists only a few options, the config file setting is in days), connections per server (GNKSA says max of four, some pay services allow at least eight, so if you want >4, set it in the config file), and pan's config dir (~/.pan2/ by default, setting taken from the $PAN_HOME environmental variable, this is how I keep separate binary and text instances of pan, with separate settings for each). -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman _______________________________________________ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-users
