On Saturday 16 September 2006 14:48, Duncan wrote: > Brian Pack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted > [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sat, 16 Sep > > 2006 14:04:59 -0400: > > [Charles Kerr wrote...] > > > >>Not very many bugs were reported this week, and most of them were > >>enhancement requests. Either 0.112 is working pretty well, or everyone's > >>burned out from the weekly betas. > >> > >>If it's the former, then RC1 should be the next release IMO. > > > > It's been bugged before, but the not saving the group status and what > > has or hasn't been read until the app has closed is driving me batty. > > > > I've gotten to the point where I simply cannot trust Pan to properly > > save it's status over an extended session. > > > > I will download new headers, and immediately close Pan. Restart and read > > a few groups, then close. Restart then read a few more. Rinse, repeat. > > > > If I know I'm going to go back and read a group later, I absolutely > > *must* close Pan before I go back and do anything else. I've lost count > > at how many times I've been browsing the 20th newsgroup of a session, > > only to have Pan crash without warning, and forgetting everything it's > > done over the last hour. > > > > Am I mission a setting or something? Otherwise, this is a major > > showstopper for me. > > You aren't missing a setting. I've experienced the same problems and in > fact I believe it's my bug. However, Charles says implementing state > saving could be a real drag on performance. > > My view is it's going to be far better than forcing the user to constantly > worry about what he'll be losing in the event of a crash, and tracking his > usage to decide when it's time to manually close and restart pan. > However, I'm not the one doing the coding, so... > > A compromise would be to create two options, save settings when switching > groups, and save settings every 10 minutes (or 5 or whatever). If the > user has a stable system, unchecking those options would avoid the > performance drag Charles is concerned about. If the user sees > instability, checking one or both of the auto-save-settings options would > mitigate the problem. > > It's worth pointing out that the instability isn't necessarily a pan > problem either. It can be a system problem (as it was in my case for > awhile). However, pan's part of the system and has to work with whatever > stability issues the system might have in addition to those it itself > might have.
If it's a drag, then drag away. Having to close and restart after reading a newsgroup or two over and over again is simply unacceptable. Pan will crash seemingly at random. Tasks that are rock solid 95% of the time, will cause a crash at the most inopportune moment. Usually just before I would have finished reading Usenet anyway. But I'll then have to spend an extra half hour trying to remember what articles I read already, and what I've saved for later.
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