Kevin Brannen posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Wed, 11 Jan 2006 22:38:19 -0600:
> Is it possible to make Pan upload attachments? I don't see any way to do > that, in both the latest stable version and in the CVS version (as of last > week). Sort-of. PAN has no direct way of uploading attachments. However, it's possible to do it one of two indirect ways. 1) Use a stand-alone encoder (such as uuencode) to convert the binary into an encoded file, then open that encoded file in an editor and select/paste (non-clipboard X style) or copy/paste (clipboard based) into PAN's text editor as you would any other content. Send it as normal. 2) Similarly, use the external text editor function. It should be possible, and I've suggested it before but don't know that anyone has actually done it (if they have, they've not posted it), to script a solution that does the attachment, then saves the combined message and attachment, and set that script as your "external editor" in PAN's preferences dialog, such that when PAN gets control back from the "external editor", the attachment is now part of the message. I /do/ know someone has used a very similar technique to allow gpg-signing of messages, as that's where I got the idea. (Unfortunately, I'm not sure that script was ever posted, tho someone commented they had come up with one.) The problem seems to be that the perfect has been the enemy of the good. PAN stands for Pimp-ass Newsreader, and that's the goal. At one point, there was even a full attachment GUI worked up and released (with the actual encoding of the attachment not yet enabled, only the file and encoding type selector) in one of the betas. Charles mentioned at one point that he had a working encoder, as well, to go with the GUI. Unfortunately, Charles apparently decided the solution wasn't good /enough/ for the "Pimp-ass Newsreader", because, as an aside comment revealed sometime later, it only did single part posts, not handling splitting and the like. I suppose he thought that once it did that, he'd lose the motivation to take it further, and that would be the way it would stay, for years, and he didn't consider that "good enough". Unfortunately, what with the year and a half Charles took off (he's a volunteer doing it in his spare time, one can't blame him for only working on it when he wants to), altho he's back working on it now, PAN has /still/ been without direct attachment capacities for "years", since the time of the beta that had the already working selection GUI, that ended up being removed. Anyway... the usual response has been to use newspost, the command-line batch-poster, possibly with its KDE or Gnome front-ends (knewspost, gnewspost, altho I'm not sure if they are any more maintained). That's likely to be better than a PAN solution would have been for anything but trivial attachment posting, in any case. One can also use another client. Since I use KDE as my desktop environment of choice, I use knode for my very occasional attachment posting, as well as a keeping a current version merged (Gentoo) as a backup newsclient, in case PAN goes haywire. (Not like it has, or is likely to, at least until CVS gets worked into a new beta to try, but anyway...) The trouble with knode is that while it DOES handle attachments, it does NOT handle yEnc, either encoding or decoding, so it can neither be used effectively in the binary groups for downloading, nor for yEnc efficiency level uploading. Still, it /does/ handle posting attachments, something PAN can't handle, and since I use KLibido for downloading (it's far more efficient at multiple servers than PAN), KNode would really suffice. AFAIK, the only *ix newsclient that handles both yEnc and posting and downloading binaries is the EMACS based "Gnus" mode. How that works with XEMACS or EMACS under X, I haven't the foggiest, as I decided long ago I wasn't an EMACS guy. Unfortunately, there simply isn't anything filling the need for a decent graphical news client for *ix, that handles both posting and downloading with attachments in yEnc. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman in http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22/rms_interview.html _______________________________________________ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-users
