Aporitic Response posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Fri, 12 Aug 2005 14:22:46 +0300:
> I'm trying to get situated with this newsreader, but it's both complex and > undocumented, so I have my work cut out. Unfortunate, the lack of documentation, definitely. Fortunately, in many cases, operation is mostly intuitive, and where it isn't, there's this list/group. =8^) > One problem I have is that filtered (plonked) posts keep showing up in the > "Unread Messages" count. > > Is there a way I can purge those, aside from deleting all messages in the > newsgroup? Yes. Actually, there's two ways, a manual method, and an automatic one. The manual method The manual method is almost intuitive enough you'll wonder how you missed it, but does require several steps so would be a hassle to do routinely. First, under the filter menu, select "Match scores of -9999 (Ignored)". If you normally don't display low scores either, and have scoring set up such that it creates them, you can turn that on too. If necessary, also turn on view read posts. That will make the filtered post visible. If desired, you can toggle the other score-match filters off as well, so /only/ the filtered ones show up. Then you can simply mark them read and/or delete them as you'd normally do. Don't forget to reset the view filters, or you'll be wondering why you aren't seeing your normal posts the next time you enter the group! (I had this problem once when I set view my own posts (only), forgot to reset it, and wondered later why PAN showed all these unread messages in the count, but wouldn't actually show me any overviews! It took me a bit to figure things out, but when I did, I was like... DUH!!! =8^) Automated There are two steps to automating the process. First, you create your own filter that specifies ignored (and low, if desired) posts, then you create a rule that acts on the filter you just created. To create the filter, go to Tools, Custom Filters. Hit Add. You now get the custom filter creation/modification dialog. Here's the tricky part. Due to the way the dialog is set up, you have to think what will NOT match. Therefore, select "Article score is at least"..., and then select low, the lowest level you do NOT want to match (or if you want it to match low as well, select zero). Now hit the "Add New Line to the Filter" button. Once it's listed in the conditions box, select the new condition, and hit the Invert button. *NOW* you get what you wanted! Complete the new custom filter by changing the name to something that makes sense, I just call mine "Ignored", and hitting the OK button. The new filter should now be listed in the Filters dialog, which you can now close as well. Now, you have to create a rule to do something with the filter you just created. Go to Tools, Rules, and again hit Add. That results in the Edit Rule dialog. On the Newsgroups tab, ensure that it's set to apply to all groups. Switch to the Filters tab, and select the "Ignored" filter you just created, above. Switch to the Actions tab, and set it to either Delete article, or Mark as... Read, whichever you prefer. Complete the rule by choosing a name. Again, I simply use "Ignored". Also ensure that the Apply to incoming checkbox is checked, or the rule will only work if you trigger it manually. Again, hit the OK button, and the new rule should now be listed in the Rules dialog, which again, you can now close. Details, details Note that the rule you just set up will automatically apply to incoming messages, but won't automatically delete messages you've already downloaded. Thus, you'll want to apply the rule manually, the first time. Open the rules dialog back up, select the rule, and hit apply to subscribed groups. Likewise, every time you add a new killfile entry, you'll probably want to open the rules dialog and apply the rule manually, so it kills any already downloaded messages now matching the new killfile entry. The "add and rescore" button in the scoring dialog will hide them from view, but won't apply your delete or mark as read rule for you. Finally, perhaps the way I deal with low scores as opposed to ignored, will also be useful for you. I have a separate filter/rule combo for each, ignored and neg-score. The ignored rule is set to delete. Anyone I mark ignore, I don't want to see their posts, ever, even to refer back to them from a reply that I DO see, so delete is what I want to do with those. I don't have many negative-scoring rules, other than set to ignore, but they do come in handy occasionally. Consequently, there aren't many posts that get a below-zero score that isn't ignored, but there are a few. The idea here is that I normally don't want to see the posts, but I don't feel so strongly about it that I don't EVER want to see them. It's possible that if I read an interesting reply, I'll want to refer to the post to which it's replying, even if I didn't see it before and wouldn't normally want to see it, because it's negative scored. Thus, the rule for neg-score simply automatically marks the posts as read, so I don't normally see them, but can toggle the view-marked-as-read filter and view them if I want to. Because I have the rule set to mark-read on incoming, and I don't normally view read posts, I won't normally see the posts, even with the view low-scored posts view-filter turned on, so I leave it on. That way, as stated, I can simply toggle the view read filter, to view the upline, as I normally would if the message weren't scored. Anyway, that should do what you want. Again the reminder, any time you toggle filters on the filter menu, don't forget to toggle them back (unless of course you want PAN to /always/ work that way), or you'll be wondering why PAN isn't working as you expect, the next time you start it! -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman in http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22/rms_interview.html _______________________________________________ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-users
