> For realtime editing you could just use libredocs.org
Well, you can't be sure the data you send to the hosted backend is safe there. This may be really important for companies using an ownCloud for (collaborative) project work.

> As for the Realtime backend. That's not the goal.
Users should be able to have 100% control over the data, so it would be awesome if the realtime backend _is_ integrated in ownCloud.

But yeah, I know PHP is definitively _not_ made for Comet applications :(

Have a nice day,

Florian

Am 04.04.2012 17:34, schrieb Michael Grosser:
For realtime editing you could just use libredocs.org
<http://libredocs.org> (hosted node.js backend with some nice and
developing capabilites) and use your owncloud storage as storage backend.
Your data, minimal setup, great realtime editing etherpad style.
As was already said, don't reinvent the wheel.

As for the Realtime backend. That's not the goal.
Owncloud should be the storage backend. The realtime communication
should be separated from the storage.
But you can take a closer look at remoteStorage.org for that.

Michael

On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Bartek Przybylski <bart.p...@gmail.com
<mailto:bart.p...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    W dniu 4 kwietnia 2012 17:14 użytkownik Nils Jansen
    <nilsjan...@gmail.com <mailto:nilsjan...@gmail.com>> napisał:
     >> we dont want to introduce any new dependencies
     >
     > That would mean we dont want real time editing. We need some sort of
     > push capabilities on server side. Otherwise it would be very laggy to
     > do ajax-refreshs every second.

    We have OC_Eventsource for that, altho some tweaks inside its
    mechanism would be needed

     >
     > Nils
     >
     > Am 4. April 2012 15:17 schrieb Florian Hülsmann <f...@cbix.de
    <mailto:f...@cbix.de>>:
     >> Hello Viraj,
     >>
     >> I'm deeply interested in your project :D
     >>
     >> Wouldn't it be possible to split it into a backend (the
    collaboration part)
     >> and a frontend (text editor), so other apps can also use the
    backend? I
     >> think of collaborative drawing with my SVG editor app (see
     >> http://ocsvg.cbix.de) and other cool stuff (real-time
    multiplayer games
     >> etc.)!
     >>
     >> Thanks, I wish you the very best for it!
     >>
     >> Florian
     >>
     >> Am 04.04.2012 11:49, schrieb Tom Needham:
     >>>>
     >>>> Personally I don't see the point of re-inventing everything
    under the
     >>>> sun. But
     >>>> whatever :)
     >>>
     >>>
     >>> That is also true, however it is very important that owncloud
    runs on a
     >>> minimal server configuration and is easy for users to install.
    For this
     >>> reason I think it is acceptable to 'create' a collaborative
    editor for
     >>> owncloud.
     >>>
     >>> Cheers,
     >>> Tom
     >>>
     >>> Tom Needham
     >>> t...@owncloud.com <mailto:t...@owncloud.com>
    <mailto:t...@owncloud.com <mailto:t...@owncloud.com>>
     >>>
     >>>
     >>> On 4 Apr 2012, at 10:34, Mario Đanić <mario.da...@gmail.com
    <mailto:mario.da...@gmail.com>
     >>> <mailto:mario.da...@gmail.com <mailto:mario.da...@gmail.com>>>
    wrote:
     >>>
     >>>> Personally I don't see the point of re-inventing everything
    under the
     >>>> sun. But
     >>>> whatever :)
     >>>>
     >>>> On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 11:15, Bartek Przybylski
    <bart.p...@gmail.com <mailto:bart.p...@gmail.com>
     >>>> <mailto:bart.p...@gmail.com <mailto:bart.p...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
     >>>>
     >>>>    W dniu 4 kwietnia 2012 11:09 użytkownik Mario Đanić
     >>>> <mario.da...@gmail.com <mailto:mario.da...@gmail.com>
    <mailto:mario.da...@gmail.com <mailto:mario.da...@gmail.com>>> napisał:
     >>>>
     >>>> > Better option would be to integrate Etherpad Lite, aka the new
     >>>>    Etherpad.
     >>>>
     >>>>    etherpad is written for node.js afaik, owncloud is php/js
    we dont want
     >>>>    to introduce any new dependencies.
     >>>>
     >>>> >
     >>>> > Cheers,
     >>>> > Mario
     >>>> >
     >>>> > On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 01:12, viraj sinha
    <virajssi...@gmail.com <mailto:virajssi...@gmail.com>
     >>>> <mailto:virajssi...@gmail.com <mailto:virajssi...@gmail.com>>>
    wrote:
     >>>> >>
     >>>> >>
     >>>> >> Hello Bartek,
     >>>> >>
     >>>> >> I wish to be applying for Gsoc project titled "Collaboration
     >>>>    rich text
     >>>> >> document editor" under owncloud and kde. I have made a draft
     >>>>    proposal and
     >>>> >> need your valuable feedbacks. Please go through it and tell me
     >>>>    about the
     >>>> >> changes that i need to make. The proposal is at-
     >>>> >>
     >>>> >>
     >>>> >>
     >>>> >>
     >>>>
     >>>>
    
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uUeWetzJtn9P9Iu1MJwvJAQQiJDv9djxKcQkPItvaek/edit
     >>>> >>
     >>>>
     >>>>    I'll check it today evening
     >>>>
     >>>> >> I would be obliged, if others could have a look, and let me
    know if
     >>>> >> there is anything that is missing, or something that I should
     >>>>    elaborate
     >>>> >> upon.
     >>>> >>
     >>>> >> Thanks a ton! :-)
     >>>> >>
     >>>> >> --
     >>>> >> Regards
     >>>> >>
     >>>> >> Viraj Sinha
     >>>> >> Mitbuzz Developer
     >>>> >> Third Monkey Labs
     >>>> >> Dept of Comp Sc
     >>>> >> MIT,Manipal
     >>>> >>
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