I think one problem might be that some of the projects would then be bound to karaf even more as they are currently are because karaf "drives" them.

Also it might make feel people that they should only be used with karaf and are not standalone.

So for me it won't make any sense to name them "karaf-pax" or something alike, they should either be "pax" or "karaf" but not both.

Am 24.02.22 um 16:42 schrieb 'Achim Nierbeck' via OPS4J:
Hi JB,

Before I come to any conclusion, I would really like to understand what kind of issue/problem you would like to solve with this, which is easier to solve under an apache umbrella.

thanks, Achim

Am Do., 24. Feb. 2022 um 15:04 Uhr schrieb Jean-Baptiste Onofré <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>:

    Hi guys,

    Some of you already pinged me to share concerns about PAX projects
    governance. I think it's my duty to share these concerns and discuss
    possible actions.

    Apache Karaf is one of the biggest consumers of PAX projects.

    However, PAX projects use a "self own" designed governance:
    - for contribution/IP
    - for release
    - for CVE/Security
    - ...

    And it could be seen as a major concern for Apache Karaf users, as PAX
    projects are not necessarily "aligned" with Apache Foundation rules.

    I would like to start a discussion on both Karaf and OPS4J communities
    to "move" PAX projects as Karaf subproject (like karaf-pax).
    Concretely, it would mean that:
    1. Karaf PAX projects would use org.apache.karaf.pax namespace
    2. Karaf PAX releases will have to follow the Apache release process
    (binding votes, 3 days vote period, ...)
    3. Any active contributor on PAX projects would be invited as Karaf
    committer

    Thoughts ?

    Regards
    JB



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