Il 27/06/2014 14:16, Richard Brown ha scritto:
> On 27 June 2014 18:08, Marco Calistri <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
>> Dear Richard,
>> 
>> I opened a bug some time ago but I am sure nobody have take it to
>> verify:
>> 
>> https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=880869
>> 
> 
> BIG SNIP!
> 
> You're wrong to think that no one has paid attention to this issue. 
> I've been looking at the bug, but haven't commented on it because I 
> don't have the hardware to reproduce the issue, and because the logs 
> simply that the issue might actually be a hardware issue - there
> seems to be regular notifications hitting gnome-settings-daemon that
> 'state is now charging'
> 
> I've searched upstream for similar bugs, but the closest I have
> found were closed as INVALID because the issue was deemed to be local
> issues with broken/misbehaving batteries in peoples laptops. But
> without similar hardware of my own, I'm in no position to suggest 
> that - so I'd rather leave the bug 'untouched' rather than push it
> in either direction
> 
> Are you sure your batteries are happy and healthy? Have you been
> able to reproduce the problem with different batteries installed? do
> you have a similar laptop with the same issue? Cant you add the same
> logs to the bug?
> 
> ps. I get that you're frustrated, and I sympathise, I really do, but 
> please can you sympathise that working on openSUSE is something I do 
> in my spare time as my hobby. The repeated broad statements, the
> doom and gloom, and general malaise that fills your last paragraph
> really discourages me..and such discouragement makes it harder for me
> to work with you to find a solution for your problem. I know it can
> be tough when something is broken, but try and keep your chin up and
> work with us rather than tearing us down, please?
> 

Hello Richard!

First of all this was not nothing personal directed to you, I named you
simply and _just_ because you invited me to open a bug instead to simply
complain about stuff which is not working.

If you offer support to opensuse community in your spare time it is a
great and generous commitment and I respect it, don't worry.

Answering to your tech questions, my battery is healthy; I cannot
reproduce the issue on different hardware because I have just the Lenovo
Z470 with a running opensuse 13.1 installed; I have other hardware,
including two laptop and one desktop but I'm using Ubuntu on these.

I'm frustrated because in my personal opinion Linux in general is
getting worse in terms of user usability comparing it to Microsoft
software and this frustrate me enough.

Beside GNOME3 and poor (or totally broken power-management if you
prefer) I can also add Bluetooth among the things that are getting worse
or are totally broken and it is not just a frustration, but a fact!

For example I cannot use my Windows Phone to transfer a file into
opensuse 13.1, the trasfer works just in one direction: from Linux to
the phone.

If the power management problem is an hardware problem, why on Windows 7
I don't notice it?

If the problem is limited to just some brands or laptop model, why it is
not documented into the opensuse Release Notes?

I doubt instead that it is the product of big changes happened recently
into Linux not just at kernel level but also inside DE (Gnome3
especially) as well as may be due to the scarce interest to develop a
better power-management for laptop.

Cheers,

-- 
Marco Calistri (amdturion)
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