Hi everyone,

   I initially got interested in OpenStreetMap because I was looking for 
sources of info about UN LOCODEs and ports and 
geographical information.  Unfortunately OSM did not seem to have much in the 
way of the sort of port info I wanted 
(when I initially looked) and so it all got postponed.  But now our company has 
been managing updating port (and other) 
LOCODEs and I thought I'd see how OSM might make use of this info.  It seems 
OSM does not have much in the way of LOCODE 
information.

So right now I am trying to get oriented on what to do and how to get this 
metadata (not map info) into OSM - Openseamap 
seems like a logical consumer of port LOCODE data.

But it is metadata and not really map type data, and I was informed there is 
something of a debate about dealing with 
metadata because then it has to be periodically updated from whatever 
authoritative sources there are and that is not 
really a general community type of task... management questions.

what is Openseamap's position on this?  I would think UN LOCODEs for the ports 
in OSM would be useful for Openseamap, 
but what is the best way about dealing with the data?  Should Openseamap merge 
OSM data with another source - and so 
LOCODE metadata shouldn't go into OSM?  What have you done in previous 
situations like this?

and how to deal with the periodic updates the UN publishes?  I can adapt a 
script I have for automatically processing UN 
updates, but then who and where might that be run?

The second thing is port terminals - not piers but shipping container 
terminals.  These things are starting to get their 
own LOCODEs by the UN.  Again, our company has info, gleaned from public data, 
and OSM / Openseamap seems like a good 
place to stick it all.  I am always worrying about data updates, so it is clean 
data.  As far as I have been able to 
ascertain, port terminals are not even in OSM, so I was going to propose a new 
tag or subtag.  any reactions?

The last thing is harbours / ports - the UN data is a bit flaky but if it says 
something is a port, there are probably 
commercial shipping operations there as well as a pier etc.  I was going to do 
a compare of the UN data against OSM to 
see how many place/harbour type nodes are completely missing.  Any thoughts?  
From there, we could get an idea about how 
incomplete the OSM data is.  e.g. the last time I looked, Long Beach CA didn't 
have a harbour tag even though it is a 
major shipping port.  Or it might have been Los Angeles.

thanks
doug


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