Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] after Installation, no X11?

Thu, 25 Feb 2021 10:18:40 -0800 


Am 24.02.21 23:44 schrieb "Rolf M. Dietze"  <[email protected]>: 
> 
> 
> Quoting Tim Mooney via openindiana-discuss 
> <[email protected]>:
> 
> >In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] after Installation, no X11?, Rolf...:
> >
> >>Hi,
> >>yes, got it running. xdm login, twm as window manager. Fast and
> >>smart:)
> >>
> >>As I started up with a text console only, Andreas and Carsten
> >>on this list told me to do a pkg install mate_install and start
> >>the SMF-service for lightdm. With a little nvidia driver update
> >>all worked fine. Since I like fast minimalistik desktops that do
> >>not consume the compute power for windows decorations, I did:
> >>pkg install twm
> >>pkg install xdm
> >>copied th svc-lightdm method to svc-xdm, set it up for xdm, reseted
> >>the xdm-fmri as was installed alongside by pkg install xdm, pointed
> >>it to the freshly createt login-xdm. (guess I could have used the
> >>default anyway, it just starts xdm so:)
> >
> >I'm glad you found a solution that works, but I think there might
> >have been an easier way that didn't involve messing with SMF at all.
> >
> >Lightdm is capable of launching any "session" it knows about. What
> >exactly a "session" is depends on the desktop environment, but for
> >the "xterm" failsafe, it's just an xterm.
> >
> >Sessions are defined in a .desktop text file in /usr/share/xsessions/
> >The .desktop file format is documented here:
> >
> >     https://specifications.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/
> >
> >Using the 'mate.desktop' and 'xterm.desktop' as examples, someone
> >that knows TWM well could probably create a twm.desktop, drop it into
> >/usr/share/xesssions/, and then continue to use lightdm as the login
> >(rather than XDM), but get it to launch your twm session.
> >
> >I know that Ubuntu and some other Linux distros that use lightdm have
> >a twm.desktop configured for their distro. That might also serve as
> >a useful example.
> >
> >Either way, if you know how to get twm to "launch" after X is already
> >running, it's probably a lot easier to just make it a selectable choice
> >from Lightdm than it is to create a different SMF.
> >
> >Hope this helps,
> [..]
> well yes and no. I do not really like the look and feel of lightdm as so
> with the gdm-login, which specially denied me using cde once gnome was
> tried out and judged to be to performanceconsuming. Same goes with the
> unity stuff and debian as well. I normally use cde-login as I am still
> supporting sunray at some places, I love CDE so....
> With FreeBSD I came back to xdm as a login manager and configured it to
> look as desired, with some scripting around one can dynamically select
> the windows manager to start with xdm as well. With that and having an
> identical login manager look and feel around FreeBSD-, ubuntu-, debian-
> and now the first OI-boxes. It is simply far simpler to just change SMF
> than to have a bunch full of differnt login managers on whatever boxes.
> For the OI testbox that I set up, OI feels simply great, thanks for all
> the work and time put in OI. Next step is bhyve, Stephan Althaus just
> posted his experience with that.
> 
> Right now I am fiddling with CDE. In fact, sunray on OI works? If, please
> give me a pointer, I'd love to put that on an OI box. Is there a newer
> firefox than 60.9.0? Firefox could be a show stopper for OI as a desktop
> replacement because of the old certificates. Yes sure, I could fence a
> more recent version of that power consuming firefox in some newer linux
> branded zone. That goes for me, assumingly for most of the readers of that
> list, but not for all users I have to support.
> 
I use SunRay on OI since some years and have contribute an install guide on 
docs.openindiana.org.
SunRay works, but with the old GDM.

At the moment I work on building an current firefox 68 or 78, but for now the 
bits simply end in core dump.
Unfortunatly build in debug mode ends in link errors and the c++ objects have 
also no reference to the source files.
 
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> Rolf
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