I remember taking a course in Latvian, when the teacher proudly announced that all of 3.5 million people spoke it world wide.

I suppose she had Livian to compare with, 300 or so, these days..

Swedish is a BIG language: 9 million here, 2 million speak east swedish, and then about a million in the US speak an archaic variant for festivities. And almost a million in other parts of the world... Wow!
That's 13 million... YEAH!!!

:-)

A Q about the Slovak language: while you were in a union with the Czechs, did the languages start to unify spontaneously? I mean like vocabulary changes, minor grammatical drift, spelling oddities changing and so on and so forth?

P.S.
I quite agree about the importance, but I might later take a look at putting in a rationalised brace sequence handling in bash ( and other shells. ).

Not now: Now I'm really hacking mr Grabowski's single image distro script.

This was just a side track while running another, failed, test of that.


On 2013-03-13 09:17, Marcel Telka wrote:
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 09:04:43AM +0100, Hans J. Albertsson wrote:
not such an easy thing then...

however. I suppose given a complete dictionary, a system could try
splitting a word between c and h and see if the resulting subwords
are in the dictionary. Hmm
Sometimes they might not be valid words, so no match in the dictionary.

But I think we shouldn't waste our time with this :-).
Who cares about a language actively used by ~5 mio people only?
Especially, when the problem is really a corner case in our language.

On 2013-03-13 08:57, Marcel Telka wrote:
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 08:01:16AM +0100, Hans J. Albertsson wrote:
Can that confusion happen at the start of a word or only inside
words?? And how many rulebreaking words are there, can they be
enumerated??
It can happen only in the middle. Only in a case when the word is constructed
>from two initially (semi-)separate words. In my example the word "viachlasný"
is "viac" + "hlasný" (it is something like multi+voice). It will happen always
when you combine a word ending by "c" with another word starting with "h". Such
combinations are not very often used in the language, but because they are
constructed as a combination of two words, you can construct a lot of such
words. The situation is even worse because those two (semi-)separate words used
for the construction might not exist as separate words in such form as it was
used for the construction.

BTW, the problem is caused by a fact that our "ch" (the single letter) is
equivalent to Russian "X", with the exception that we do not have a single
character for it (we probably should have). AFAIK, Czech language is similar
with "ch" (it is a single letter too), but I am not sure whether there is an
example of a real word where "ch" are two letters.

On 2013-03-12 22:50, Sašo Kiselkov wrote:
On 03/12/2013 10:10 PM, Marcel Telka wrote:
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 10:02:27PM +0100, Sašo Kiselkov wrote:
I'm pretty sure nobody in bash development actually considers
locale-specific letter ordering rules. Language-specific idiosyncrasies
are a never ending stream of hurt and implementation problems (e.g. in
my language "ch" is supposed to be treated as a single letter for
sorting purposes).
Interestingly, "ch" is not always a single letter. It depends on a word:
"viachlasný" is an example of a word where "ch" are two letters...

Yes, our language is Slovak.
Correct, that's another twisty-twist I forgot to mention. Slovak
sucks... (for computing)

--
Saso

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