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Today's Topics:
1. Re: HFS+ (Apple file system) read/write support on Illumos --
interest levels? (Jerry Kemp)
2. Using a USB 20 device (Bob Palank)
3. Re: Using a USB 20 device (Roel_D)
4. Re: HFS+ (Apple file system) read/write support on Illumos --
interest levels? (Roel_D)
5. Re: HFS+ (Apple file system) read/write support on Illumos --
interest levels? (Magnus)
6. Re: HFS+ (Apple file system) read/write support on Illumos --
interest levels? (Dave Pooser)
7. Re: HFS+ (Apple file system) read/write support on Illumos --
interest levels? (Roel_D)
8. Re: HFS+ (Apple file system) read/write support on Illumos --
interest levels? (Richard L. Hamilton)
9. Re: Using a USB 20 device (Dmitry Kozhinov)
10. Re: Using a USB 20 device (Jean-Pierre Andr?)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 13:22:06 -0500
From: Jerry Kemp <[email protected]>
To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana
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Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] HFS+ (Apple file system) read/write
support on Illumos -- interest levels?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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+1
There are both commercial (as Magnus mentioned) and open source ZFS
solutions for Unix based Mac systems.
As neat as native HFS+ file systems under OpenIndiana or *Solaris would
be, its really not the way to go.
Other alternatives as someone else mentioned is iSCSI.
And I do very well at home with my Mac's doing NFS mounts to my OI
storage server. YMMV.
Regardless, you have lots of options.
Jerry Kemp
On 09/15/12 12:15 AM, Magnus wrote:
On Sep 15, 2012, at 12:19 AM, Dave Pooser wrote:
At $DAYJOB we have a need to get files from Mac-formatted (HFS+) volumes
from video record appliances onto ZFS-based storage towers (because when
you're talking about the only video recordings of a major corporate
meeting, "probably OK" filesystems aren't enough). Right now we do it
via
a Mac -- hook drive to Mac, mount ZFS filesystem via CIFS, and copy--
but
that's a bit of a pain in the rear; it would be a lot easier to be able
to
hook drives directly to an OI tower and copy the files that way. I
I know we're supposed to be promoting Illumos solutions and whatnot, but
why not run ZFS directly on your Macs? It won't work for the boot drive
but it'll work for the external storage you're attaching. You can zfs
send | zfs receive to an OI tower for deep archiving if you'd prefer.
http://zevo.getgreenbytes.com
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 14:59:21 -0400
From: "Bob Palank" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Using a USB 20 device
Message-ID: <F601E47FE8534A8DA0D34271445B3AB0@v5000>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Are there specific directions as to how to read/write data on a USB 2.0
jump drive?
XP sees it and VBox also sees it but OI doesn't.
If I need to mount it, are there specific directions?
I've looked at general Linux directions and I fail.
Bob
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 21:23:01 +0200
From: Roel_D <[email protected]>
To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana
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Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Using a USB 20 device
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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Are you running OI as virtualbox slave?
Make sure that you enable USB passthrough in Virtualbox.
I'm not sure but i think that it is an extra (licenced) option in
Virtualbox. Did read this once somewhere.
(verzonden vanaf mobiel apparaat, typfouten voorbehouden)
Op 15 sep. 2012 om 20:59 heeft "Bob Palank" <[email protected]> het volgende
geschreven:
Are there specific directions as to how to read/write data on a USB 2.0
jump drive?
XP sees it and VBox also sees it but OI doesn't.
If I need to mount it, are there specific directions?
I've looked at general Linux directions and I fail.
Bob
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 21:25:45 +0200
From: Roel_D <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] HFS+ (Apple file system) read/write
support on Illumos -- interest levels?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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create a ZFS drive in OI, create an iSCSI target on it, join it from your
Apple, Format it as you wish, create a backupplan voor your ZFS
drive/slice, done?
()
Op 15 sep. 2012 om 20:22 heeft Jerry Kemp <[email protected]> het
volgende geschreven:
+1
There are both commercial (as Magnus mentioned) and open source ZFS
solutions for Unix based Mac systems.
As neat as native HFS+ file systems under OpenIndiana or *Solaris would
be, its really not the way to go.
Other alternatives as someone else mentioned is iSCSI.
And I do very well at home with my Mac's doing NFS mounts to my OI
storage server. YMMV.
Regardless, you have lots of options.
Jerry Kemp
On 09/15/12 12:15 AM, Magnus wrote:
On Sep 15, 2012, at 12:19 AM, Dave Pooser wrote:
At $DAYJOB we have a need to get files from Mac-formatted (HFS+)
volumes
from video record appliances onto ZFS-based storage towers (because
when
you're talking about the only video recordings of a major corporate
meeting, "probably OK" filesystems aren't enough). Right now we do it
via
a Mac -- hook drive to Mac, mount ZFS filesystem via CIFS, and copy--
but
that's a bit of a pain in the rear; it would be a lot easier to be able
to
hook drives directly to an OI tower and copy the files that way. I
I know we're supposed to be promoting Illumos solutions and whatnot, but
why not run ZFS directly on your Macs? It won't work for the boot drive
but it'll work for the external storage you're attaching. You can zfs
send | zfs receive to an OI tower for deep archiving if you'd prefer.
http://zevo.getgreenbytes.com
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 16:54:27 -0400
From: Magnus <[email protected]>
To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana
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Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] HFS+ (Apple file system) read/write
support on Illumos -- interest levels?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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On Sep 15, 2012, at 3:25 PM, Roel_D wrote:
create a ZFS drive in OI, create an iSCSI target on it, join it from your
Apple, Format it as you wish, create a backupplan voor your ZFS
drive/slice, done?
The iSCSI initiator for OS X is no longer free software. Unless there is
another one that I'm not aware of, this plan of action would cost the end
user about $80 for the initiator software. It's a sad turn of events for
Mac users but what can you do?
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 16:01:41 -0500
From: Dave Pooser <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] HFS+ (Apple file system) read/write
support on Illumos -- interest levels?
Message-ID: <cc7a5648.4c93b%[email protected]>
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On 9/15/12 12:15 AM, "Magnus" <[email protected]> wrote:
I know we're supposed to be promoting Illumos solutions and whatnot, but
why not run ZFS directly on your Macs? It won't work for the boot drive
but it'll work for the external storage you're attaching. You can zfs
send | zfs receive to an OI tower for deep archiving if you'd prefer.
http://zevo.getgreenbytes.com
Yeah, that came out the day I finally got tired of waiting for it to ship
and went with my plan B. Timing is everything. :^)
I'll be testing the Zevo solution and see how it works with RAIDZ2 on Mac
Pros (after I figure out how many drives I can cram in there -- wonder if
the PS will drive 8x2.5" drives as well as the 4 3.5" drives). Thanks for
the pointer.
--
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Cat-Herder-in-Chief, Pooserville.com
"...Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
safely in one pretty and well-preserved piece, but to slide across the
finish line broadside, thoroughly used up, worn out, leaking oil, and
shouting GERONIMO!!!" -- Bill McKenna
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 01:30:19 +0200
From: Roel_D <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] HFS+ (Apple file system) read/write
support on Illumos -- interest levels?
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$80,- ??
That is lame, so they just want the basic user to store everything in
their US-based iCloud?
#fail
Op 15 sep. 2012 om 22:54 heeft Magnus <[email protected]> het volgende
geschreven:
On Sep 15, 2012, at 3:25 PM, Roel_D wrote:
create a ZFS drive in OI, create an iSCSI target on it, join it from
your Apple, Format it as you wish, create a backupplan voor your ZFS
drive/slice, done?
The iSCSI initiator for OS X is no longer free software. Unless there is
another one that I'm not aware of, this plan of action would cost the end
user about $80 for the initiator software. It's a sad turn of events for
Mac users but what can you do?
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 20:28:31 -0400
From: "Richard L. Hamilton" <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] HFS+ (Apple file system) read/write
support on Illumos -- interest levels?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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iCloud servers are probably on various continents, for performance. That
also means that they may be subject to different rules in different
juristictions; you think your privacy isn't perfect in the US? For sure
it would be worse some other places.
But you've got it wrong anyway; the formerly free iSCSI initiator for Mac
was from Studio Network Solutions, _not_ from Apple. Back when the free
version worked, I noticed the following: under a normal setup using its
GUI, the filesystems were only mounted when I was logged in; and if I
stayed logged in for days at a time, I tended to crash. I'm not saying
their initiator was definitely at fault, just saying it may not be the
answer you're hoping for.
I haven't tried greenbytes.com version of zfs for the Mac (neither the
paid nor the free), but I have used http://code.google.com/p/maczfs/ on
Snow Leopard and Lion, although only playing; in particular, I never used
a local disk partition, so I don't know how solid it is by itself.
On Sep 15, 2012, at 7:30 PM, Roel_D wrote:
$80,- ??
That is lame, so they just want the basic user to store everything in
their US-based iCloud?
#fail
Op 15 sep. 2012 om 22:54 heeft Magnus <[email protected]> het volgende
geschreven:
On Sep 15, 2012, at 3:25 PM, Roel_D wrote:
create a ZFS drive in OI, create an iSCSI target on it, join it from
your Apple, Format it as you wish, create a backupplan voor your ZFS
drive/slice, done?
The iSCSI initiator for OS X is no longer free software. Unless there is
another one that I'm not aware of, this plan of action would cost the
end user about $80 for the initiator software. It's a sad turn of events
for Mac users but what can you do?
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 14:16:36 +0600
From: Dmitry Kozhinov <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Using a USB 20 device
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What filesystem do you have at the USB drive? Is it supported by OI?
XP may see NTFS filesystem, which is not readable by OI.
> XP sees it and VBox also sees it but OI doesn't.
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 12:46:24 +0200
From: Jean-Pierre Andr? <[email protected]>
To: [email protected], [email protected]
Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Using a USB 20 device
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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Hi,
Dmitry Kozhinov wrote:
What filesystem do you have at the USB drive? Is it supported by OI?
XP may see NTFS filesystem, which is not readable by OI.
It is very difficult to get facts known...
Please look at
http://jp-andre.pagesperso-orange.fr/openindiana-ntfs-3g.html
Regards
Jean-Pierre
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