On Sun, 29 Apr 2012, Enrico wrote:

thank you Andy for this info
let us know your experience when you'll setup-up the disks

I didn't have any problems at all when I did this. I added the three 4 TB disks to the system alongside the 250 GB disk it was supplied with and booted OI 151a off a USB DVD drive after first editing the grub boot stanza to replace the $ISADIR variable with 'amd64', as OI doesn't auto-detect the fact that this microserver is fitted with a 64-bit CPU.

At the start of the live image installation, OI correctly detects all 4 disks but reports that only 2 TB of the 4 TB disks is usable if they are used as boot disks. So I installed to the 250 GB disk and then created the pool with:

        zpool create lapback1 raidz c2t1d0 c2t2d0 c2t3d0
        zfs create lapback1/backups

It checks out OK:

        andy@lapback1:~# zfs list
        NAME                     USED  AVAIL  REFER  MOUNTPOINT
        lapback1                 890K  7.13T   202K  /lapback1
        lapback1/backups         192K  7.13T   192K  /lapback1/backups
        rpool                   4.90G   223G  46.5K  /rpool
        rpool/ROOT              2.93G   223G    31K  legacy
        rpool/ROOT/openindiana  2.93G   223G  2.91G  /
        rpool/dump               959M   223G   959M  -
        rpool/export            34.2M   223G    32K  /export
        rpool/export/home       34.2M   223G    32K  /export/home
        rpool/export/home/andy  34.2M   223G  34.2M  /export/home/andy
        rpool/swap              1020M   224G   137M  -

and:

        andy@lapback1:~# iostat -en
          ---- errors ---
          s/w h/w trn tot device
            0   0   0   0 c2t0d0
            0   0   0   0 c2t1d0
            0   0   0   0 c2t2d0
            0   0   0   0 c2t3d0


I will be using these servers at a university for automated backups of user laptops (Windows, Macs, Linux and the odd FreeBSD user) so that 5 minutes after a laptop connects to the network, it either backs up incrementally or syncs the laptop with the server using rsync. (The existing service runs on a Sun E450 running Open Solaris 134 SPARC and fitted with 19 x 300 GB disks in three ZFS pools but we now need more storage space and 300 GB is the limit for conventional SCSI disks).

I will post any problems I have with this in 'production' here.

Andy

On 04/29/2012 09:24 AM, andy thomas wrote:
On Sat, 28 Apr 2012, Enrico wrote:

did a little research, just because i'm curious about this, my storage needs
are much lower :)

they say
(http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showpost.php?p=13963218&postcount=4727)
that SB820M south-bridge on n40l has a limit of 3.2tb for hdd capacity. but
there are no such details on the official specs:
support.amd.com/us/Embedded_TechDocs/47283.pdf
i hope this helps a bit

A comment from a poster called 'AFireInside' on this same forum says AMD
confirms that 4 TB disks will work in the N40L Microserver:

http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?s=a97e85a928a1e6997245557220f4b729&t=1009531&page=2


Also, HP's own specifications confirm that this unit is suitable for 4 TB disks:

http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/13716_div/13716_div.html

A lot of the comments saying otherwise seem to relate to the earlier N36L model,
earlier BIOS versions and booting Windows from disks larger than 3.2 TB.

As for using Advanced Format disks with 4K sectors in ZFS pools, the worst case scenario would be that these disks can be used in a backwards-compatible legacy 512 byte sector format but with slower r/w performance. Also, Hitachi provide a Windows utility to re-align 4k sectors on their drives although I'm not sure
whether this would suit OI/ZFS.

Finally, it looks like OI has some support for 4k sector disks:

http://wiki.openindiana.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4883847

and ZFS pools can be created with the 'zpool create block-size 4096 ...' option.

I'll take the plunge and order a N40L Microserver plus 3 x 4 TB disks and I'll
post my experiences here.

cheers, Andy

On 04/28/2012 08:39 PM, Enrico wrote:
Hi roy,
yes, right, it was just to tell Andy what I've tested with this hp system and OI. i think there are many people who have written in detail their experience about supported hdd sizes in forums easily reachable just by googling n40l. let me also correct what i've written before: the adaptec 1045/1405 are luckily supported by the aac driver, despite what is written on the man page. the si3124 driver refers to a sata controller i've tested successfully on the pciex1 slot.
Best regards,
Enrico

On 04/28/2012 06:13 PM, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote:
It probably won't help much. Any SATA controller should recognize the 4TB drives, and the problem with the drives lying about sector sizes won't be any
better whatever controller you use.

roy

----- Opprinnelig melding -----
maybe this might help:
http://www.adaptec.com/en-us/products/controllers/hardware/sas/entry/asc-1045/
it is recognized on a n40l and it is supported by the si3124 driver

On 04/28/2012 09:54 AM, andy thomas wrote:
For some time now I've successfully been using ZFS RAIDz pools made
up of 3 x 1
TB or 3 x 2 TB Western Digital Caviar Black disks in a HP
MicroServer N36L
running OI 148 or 151. I'm now thinking of using the newer HP N40L
microserver
with 3 x 4 TB disks (Hitachi DeskStart 7K4000) which have 4096 byte
sectors. Can
anyone foresee a problem with this?

I plan to set up several of these storage servers in mirrored pairs
so I want to
make sure this will work before ordering anything.

Thanks in advance for any comments or advice,

Andy

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