Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it. Those young startups and newbie engineers would have to season for a few years to get my respect anyway. About the time they stop thinking they're l337 doodz or some such nonsense, they might _appreciate_ that function > fashion, and not regard their betters as "anathema".
Unless one can come up with something extraordinarily memorable and informative, yet short, just stick with a three syllable upper limit, and non-Welsh spelling. :-) CoolIX, CuteOS, whatever... On Jun 21, 2011, at 2:32 PM, Blake wrote: > I agree that Sun's engineering legacy is impressive. > > Unfortunately, the words 'Sun' and 'Solaris' are anathema to most young > startups and newbie engineers. Rather than forcing a history lesson on > them, I feel we should look forward when evangelizing the platform. > > Blake > > On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Jake Young <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Ken Gunderson <[email protected] >>> wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 2011-06-20 at 21:11 -0400, Jake wrote: >>>> I totally agree. OpenIndiana describes the distro quite well, since it >> is >>> the opensource bits of the Solaris Indiana release; but the reference is >>> totally lost to anyone not familiar with what OpenSolaris was. >>>> >>>> I think a Sun reference would be fitting. >>> >>> Why? The Sun has set some time ago. There's nothing to see here now. >>> Time to move along, move along. Perhaps you're thinking that a >>> reference to Sun obscure enough to avoid a lawsuit would in some way be >>> attractive to business. I think the opposite - anyone who's been around >>> for a while has their Oracle horror story so why would we want to >>> associate. And by Oracle, I'm referencing the corporate entity, not >>> contributing individuals who happen to be employed by same. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Regards-- Ken Gunderson >>> >>> One of the biggest appeals of OI/Illumos to me is that it is a >> continuation >> of the legacy of Sun Solaris' high standards of engineering excellence. My >> personal view of the open sourcing of Solaris 11 is that someone in Sun >> wanted to make sure that the OS that had so much invested in it would have >> an opportunity to continue to flourish. Things weren't going so well for >> Sun back in 2005, it was pretty clear that if the Sun hardware wasn't going >> to make enough money, the OS development would be impacted severely. The >> roots of Solaris go back to the beginning of >> >> Not that Sun was such a great company, but there were a lot of fantastic >> developers there. Anyone I talked to that knew the kernel development >> teams, said something along the lines of "they're the smartest people I >> know". Sun incubated that talent and tried to make its money from hardware >> sales. >> >> There are still a lot of fantastic people that stayed on when Oracle took >> over. What is scaring everyone is what will Oracle do with Solaris in 5 >> years, will there even be a Solaris 12? >> >> Maybe someday, OI/Illumos will not be seen as the fork... >> >> I think its appropriate to honor the company that brought us this great OS! >> >> Jake >> _______________________________________________ >> OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss >> > _______________________________________________ > OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > -- The waitress asked, "Do you want lemon or no lemon with that iced tea?" Naturally, I said "yes", and then burst out laughing, because there simply wasn't any other answer in Boolean logic. She didn't get it, but I got the lemon, which I wanted anyway. Later, I realized a quantum computer could have offered another answer: Schroedinger's Lemon! _______________________________________________ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
