On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 4:32 AM, Ian Lynch <[email protected]> wrote: > On 1 October 2012 21:46, Rob Weir <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Ian Lynch <[email protected]> wrote: >> > On 1 October 2012 20:25, Albino B Neto <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> Hi. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Rob Weir <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > These three are closely-related and it will probably require an >> >> > iterative approach to get these right. So it would be of great help >> >> > to me if a few (3-4) consultants on the ooo-dev list would be willing >> >> > to work with me to get their listings added now. This may require >> >> > some back-and-forth as we adjust the schema or uncover additional >> >> > policy nuances. But better to find this out early. >> >> >> >> +1. Me (Portuguese - Brazil). >> >> >> >> > practice == one or more areas of practice. I'd like to use this for >> >> > categorization, so it will be a fixed list of options. Currently I'm >> >> > proposing: Deployment, Migration, Extensions, Training, >> >> > Customization. Other. Are there any other areas we should mention >> >> > specifically? >> >> >> >> No. >> >> >> >> > Are these fields reasonable? Any others we should have? >> >> >> >> No. >> >> >> >> > And again, getting some real, specific, non-fake data added will help >> >> > validate the design. >> >> >> > >> > Here is some real data. >> > >> > <consultant> >> > <name>The Learning Machine, Ltd</name> >> > <country>Global</country> >> > <practice>Certification</practice> >> > <practice>User Skills</practice> >> > <description>The Learning Machine, Ltd provides certification of >> IT >> > user skills in the context of Apache Open Office, accredited by the UK >> > national Regulators and referenced to the European Qualifications >> > Framework. We work through organisations such as schools, colleges and >> > adult education providers.</description> >> > <website>https://theingots.org/community/CertOOo</website> >> > <email>[email protected]</email> >> > <phone>+44 (0) 1827305940</phone> >> > </consultant> >> > >> > >> > name == name of your entity, could be your personal name or name of your >> > company >> > >> > country == one or more ISO country codes that you do business in. If >> > you do business everywhere you can say "Global" >> > >> > practice == one or more areas of practice. I'd like to use this for >> > categorization, so it will be a fixed list of options. Currently I'm >> > proposing: Deployment, Migration, Extensions, Training, >> > Customization. Other. Are there any other areas we should mention >> > specifically? >> > >> > I'm saying certification rather than training because others provide the >> > training we simply provide certification of the outcomes of the training >> > for users rather than developers. >> > >> >> OK. I will add "Certification". >> >> How do you distinguish a practice in "User Skills" from "Training"? >> Or is this something else entirely? >> > > Training supports development of user skills, certification confirms they > have been acquired. Separating the training from the certification reduces > the risk of conflicts of interest. User skills are for people that use the > software as opposed to professional IT people like developers, sys admins > etc. We can certificate those too but so far the market seems more likely > to be viable in the user space. One way of classifying things could be > Training at the top level and Certification as a sub-category without > necessarily separating out the target audience for the certification. I > doubt there will be a lot of certification consultants so it might be > better to do it that way, it's simply that it can also be confusing when we > don't actually offer training ourselves, schools and colleges do that and > we QA the outcomes independently. > > Not sure if that helps but I can go along with whichever way you think > works best overall. >
Since this is intended to be a taxonomy that would apply to everyone, I want to make sure it is clear both to other consultants as well as to visitors to the website. "Certification" is a good one, and we can describe it in a way that makes it clear that it is different than "Training". But it sounds like "User Skills" is a qualifier of "Certification", i.e., "User Skills Certification". IMHO, delivering "User Skills" itself sounds like a training offering. So I'm wondering... are there other kinds of certification of interest, beyond user certification? Does anyone currently (or do we anticipate) something like a "Certified OpenOffice Developer"? If so we might want to reserve categories for "User Certification" and "Developer Certification". (Admin certification as well?) -Rob > -Rob >> >> >> > description == plain text, no HTML, description, limit of 300 >> > characters. It should be factual, not an advertisement. >> > >> > website == URL of your website >> > >> > email (optional) == contact email address >> > >> > phone number (optional) == contact phone number >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Ian >> > >> > Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications (The Schools ITQ) >> > >> > www.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940 >> > >> > The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, >> > Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and >> > Wales. >> > > > > -- > Ian > > Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications (The Schools ITQ) > > www.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940 > > The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, > Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and > Wales.
