On Sep 7, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Andrew Rist <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'm not particularly satisfied with current PMC selection process. I think 
> the first pass was actually fairly reasonable, and fairly quickly resulted in 
> a list that contains the people who are serious about the project.  
> Unfortunately, we haven't been able to find consensus on the next step.  I'd 
> like to propose a different way to look at this which may lead us to a better 
> way to move forward.   I think we can avoid the need to organize the next 
> step around '-1' (i.e. speaking out against potential PMC members - 
> discussions around who to leave off), and instead create an affirmative 
> process where we identify who we want on.
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> What is a good Project Management Committee?
> Here's my start (please expand on this):
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> * Representative of the diversity of tasks in the community
>   (developers, web/wiki/forum, translators, testers, UX, release,
>   marketing, press, ecosystem, infrastructure)
> * Representative of the geographical diversity in the community
> * Made up of the most involved members of the community
> * Able and Competent to perform required ASF functions (overseeing
>   releases and developing the community)
> * Represents the community in the best possible light
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> While on one hand I understand why so many of us want to be on the PMC, a 
> large PMC is not necessarily in the best interest of the project.   The PMC 
> should not be making decisions about the direction of the project and on who 
> gets to do what - the PMC should be mostly involved with voting in new 
> committers and approving releases.  The direction of the project should be 
> determined on ooo-dev, and by the people who are active in the parts of the 
> community listed above.
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> My Proposal for the next step in the PMC selection process:
> I suggest that each of us provide up to 10 names for the PMC.  no spreadsheet 
> - no voting - no '-1s' for now.  Just an affirmative list of the 10 people 
> you think should be doing the work of the PMC.  (the list of names we have 
> produced so far is a great place to start for your list, but it is not 
> exclusive) Anyone can play! PPMC members, committers, the community.   Next 
> we use this to produce a list of the group getting the most votes. (using 
> PPMC and committer lists as more binding)   We can use this to produce the 
> next pass at the proposed PMC roster, hopefully a PMC of around 20 members.
>

Interesting idea. Another way of keeping it small and focused would be
to rotate all committers in over time, say 20 at a time for 6 months
at a time. Everyone gets a turn, no one left out and power does not
concentrate.


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