> On 26. märts 2017, at 21:04, James Blachly <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Mar 26, 2017, at 7:36 AM, Toomas Soome <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On 26. märts 2017, at 14:23, Andreas Wacknitz <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Am 25.03.17 um 22:30 schrieb James Blachly:
>>>> (I did not get any response on the -discuss list, so please forgive the 
>>>> re-posting)
>>>> 
>>>> Speaking as a new OI user here,
>>>> 
>>>> I am using the kernel CIFS/SMB service for the first time (on other 
>>>> systems including smartos I am using samba), which is quite convenient. 
>>>> However, it did not work out of the box.
>>>> 
>>>> Is there any reason something along the lines of the following should not 
>>>> be in /etc/pam.conf in the installer/freshly installed image?
>>>> 
>>>> # Kernel SMB/CIFS service for insertion into /var/smb/smbpasswd
>>>> other   password required       pam_smb_passwd.so.1     nowarn
>>>> 
>>>> This seems like a reasonable change that would lower the barrier to entry 
>>>> / lower the frustration level for new users at a critical point in their 
>>>> go/no go decision.
>>> I am not sure about the reasons it is missing in our standard installation. 
>>> Probably because not everybody is using smb/cifs and it might be
>>> a security problem. I think the general idea behind it was (during Solaris 
>>> times) that it is safer to have as few as possible things "on" by default
>>> and an admin should know what to activate.
>>> So an alternative to enable this in /etc/pam.conf would be an enhanced 
>>> desription of admin steps after installation (on the wiki probably).
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> Andreas
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The problem is that smb setup is not consistent. From one hand you get this 
>> mantra “look how easy it is” - which is an lie. What actually should happen 
>> is:
>> 
>> 1. creating an share should check if we also need to do smbadm join domain 
>> or workgroup; if its workgroup, then the join should also set up the pam 
>> entry.
>> 2. Set up the default ACL for share. This one is major pain, it is not 
>> properly documented, the current default is useless and confusing.
>> 3. create /etc/avahi/services/smb.service for SMB.
>> 
>> Also note that if you need to read wiki just to set up the SMB share, it 
>> means the whole concept is already wrong - it has nothing to do with being 
>> simple nor easy nor user frendly.
>> 
>> rgds,
>> toomas
> 
> I agree entirely with toomas’ sentiment vis-a-vis “it is not as simple as it 
> appears”, with the qualifier that in the case of a desired setup that is 
> Workgroup only / no AD/ no Windows Domain, the Oracle documentation and all 
> the relevant OI and illumos documentation I could find seemed to suggest that 
> “it should just work” after setting sharesmb property.


Yes, it does depend on how you define “it should just work”, because yea - if 
you have functional guest setup, sure;)

> 
> **With this addition to pam.conf, it would** , and I advocate strongly for 
> its inclusion in the base installation. (Strictly speaking, the step 3, 
> mDNS/avahi) is not necessary to connect, only to browse)

true, just another small thing. But the world is built on small things.

And do not forget about permission setup;) We can only guess how many people 
have opted to use samba just because;)

rgds,
toomas

_______________________________________________
oi-dev mailing list
[email protected]
https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev

Reply via email to