Yes, this is a good GSoC project. I’m happy to mentor a student, modulo my
concerns about working with remote students. (I don’t want to mentor students
from India, China, etc. because in my experience I have not been successful in
supporting them effectively. I’m much more likely to be happy working with a
student who can ideally meet me in person at least once or twice in the term,
or at least one in a timezone that makes it possible for reasonable
collaboration to occur. Again, this is just *my* preference as a mentor — I
see nothing wrong with other mentors wanting to work with remote students if
they feel they can give such students sufficient support; I just know I’ve not
been successful in doing so the last few years.)
The successful student should have some experience with one or more of SCSI,
SATA, device drivers, file systems. A student without background in *any* of
those will not be very likely to succeed in this project in the time allotted
for GSoC, IMO.
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On February 27, 2014 at 11:06:22 AM, Adam Števko ([email protected]) wrote:
Hi,
another possible project for GSoC could be adding TRIM support in illumos.
According to my information, only some sd driver modifications are needed.
SSDs are becoming more widespread and illumos is the only OS which does not
have proper TRIM support I know about.
Is this a suitable task for GSoC? I suppose there are many engineers on the
list with needed expertise, who could mentor a student.
Cheers,
Adam
On Feb 15, 2014, at 1:35 PM, ken mays <[email protected]> wrote:
Hello,
Note: OI is nothing more than a 'server OS' distribution with additional
software. Leave it at that.
OI surely can mentor students as there are 'students' that already work on that
project.
As for illumos, I note that there 'should be' a general focus on projects that
a group of students can
work on for the summer or accomplish in the 3-month span.
Porting device drivers is such a task. Many 'experts' here on kernel and device
driver programming.
I'd like to see students work on USB 3.1/Thunderbolt 2 drivers for illumos. A
few storage partners
use illumos and supporting device drivers related to storage makes sense - not
so much graphic drivers.
That brings into focus the reality of how illumos is being used on the 'bigger
scale' of things. The
illumos kernel developers that can mentor students based on projects they may
work on internally
and can hopefully lead that work into future jobs for the student or a great
job reference.
As for OI GSoC, a project like 'Implement the 2013Q3 Intel Graphics Stack' is a
great project which involves
upstream's Xnv implementation.
Note: I'd donate high-end graphic cards/workstations to students accomplishing
those goals.
Sincerely,
Ken Mays
On Friday, February 14, 2014 2:53 PM, Garrett D'Amore <[email protected]>
wrote:
Lets all agree that we don’t want any simple efforts to just package software
as part of GSoC, whether for any distribution.
Let’s also agree that if some very compelling project (forward and innovative
thinking, not just making illumos try to compete with Linux on Linux’s terms)
for Desktop technology comes up, we can evaluate such a project on its merits,
and consider it as a candidate for GSoC slots.
Let’s also agree that opinions of folks not actively volunteering to mentor
really don’t count for much here. Its the time on the part of the mentors and
admin, and Google’s money at stake. Unless a project poses a risk to the
“reputation” for illumos, it shouldn’t matter to other parties.
Thanks.
--
Garrett D'Amore
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On February 14, 2014 at 9:19:35 AM, Keith Wesolowski
([email protected]) wrote:
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 04:20:43PM +0000, Alasdair Lumsden wrote:
> However there are plenty of people who do want to run it on the desktop, and
> who are you to tell them they should not do this?
I'm not telling people what to work on, since they're not employed by
me. I'm trying to make sure that the illumos community represents
itself favourably and accurately to the wider world, especially when
trying to recruit young engineers to work on our operating system.
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