There are more things than PKCE — the intent would be that if the server
advertises 2.1 it would be fully compliant

On Mon, Sep 15, 2025 at 8:00 PM Thomas Broyer <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'm not a fan of versionned specs. If the only difference that cannot be
> discovered is mandatory pkce, then add a field to metadata telling whether
> it's mandatory or not.
>
> Adding a version field won't tell the whole story: if the server
> advertises OAuth 2.1 support, does it means it's fully compliant? (does it
> validates redirect uris as OAuth 2.1 or the more lenient OAuth 2.0?) or
> only that it incorporates some breaking changes from OAuth 2.1 so clients
> should treat is a OAuth 2.1 despite not implementing all of it? (given they
> are only restrictions from 2.0, so a 2.0 client might just work if
> configured correctly, i.e. using pkce already)
>
> Thomas Broyer
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>
> Le lun. 15 sept. 2025, 19:59, Dick Hardt <[email protected]> a écrit :
>
>> Hey everyone,
>>
>> A key decision in adopting the OAuth 2.1 work was that there would be no
>> new normative text. As it turns out, we do need to add the ability for the
>> AS and client to discover if the other party supports OAuth 2.1.
>>
>> There are a number of protocol features that are valid in OAuth 2.0 that
>> are not valid in OAuth 2.1. For example, the code_challenge is REQUIRED in
>> OAuth 2.1
>>
>> We are proposing the following normative additions to support version
>> support discovery between the AS and the client.
>>
>> For a client to know if an AS supports 2.1, the AS metadata contains a
>> new "oauth_versions_supported" property that is an array of version
>> strings.
>>
>> example:
>>
>> "oauth_versions_supported": ["2.0","2.1"]
>>
>>
>> This indicates the AS supports both OAuth 2.0 and OAuth 2.1
>>
>> For an AS to learn that a client supports 2.1, the client would include
>> in its metadata the "oauth_version" property which would contain the string
>> "2.1"
>>
>> example:
>>
>> "oauth_version": "2.1"
>>
>>
>> Note that there is no explicit signal from the client or server at
>> runtime if a given request or response is conforming with OAuth 2.0 vs
>> OAuth 2.1
>>
>>
>> https://github.com/oauth-wg/oauth-v2-1/issues/120
>>
>>
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