The new introduction text at 
https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-oauth-rfc7523bis-01.html#name-introduction
 is intended to make this clear.

                                                                Thanks,
                                                                -- Mike

From: Watson Ladd <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2025 3:08 PM
To: Deb Cooley <[email protected]>
Cc: Brian Campbell <[email protected]>; IETF oauth WG 
<[email protected]>
Subject: [OAUTH-WG] Re: Updates to RFC 7523




On Thu, Apr 24, 2025, 3:02 PM Deb Cooley 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
So, I went back and looked at the OAUTH 122 meetings, and I was at that session 
(in my defense it was on Friday and Ben will remember what that's like).  So 
apologies....

I will go back and re-look at the facts, and I do, in fact, have it as a topic 
on the informal next week.

So in any case, it will be sorted by next Thursday.  And once the wg thinks it 
is ready to go, we can expedite on the IESG/RFC Editor end.

If the only thing we're doing is fixing this one security problem a few 
editorial bits might want changing to make that clearer

Deb



On Thu, Apr 24, 2025 at 7:51 AM Deb Cooley 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I was at the OAUTH interim where this was discussed.  I did feel like the 
current course was more straightforward for those implementing.  [if this was 
discussed at 122, my memory fails me]

As a caution, I have added this issue to the next IESG informal meeting.  I 
will relay the result of that discussion here.

Deb



On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 3:31 PM Brian Campbell 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
 wrote:
I commented on, and approved, the PR but will say on-list here for posterity 
that, even from a structural standpoint, I think that it'd be more 
straightforward to build up from 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-campbell-oauth-rfc7523redux 
(acknowledging it's little more than an outline currently) rather than 
reworking/working from the current 
xml<https://github.com/oauth-wg/draft-ietf-oauth-rfc7523bis/blob/ae2bb070cd1624881ceffdafcaf631cabe54c57b/draft-ietf-oauth-rfc7523bis.xml>.
 But to the extent things are moving in that direction, I'm good with it.

On Tue, Apr 22, 2025 at 1:04 PM Brian Campbell 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

On Tue, Apr 22, 2025 at 1:01 PM Benjamin Kaduk 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
 I hope we don't end up with a "late surprise" later on.

Yeah, me too.

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