Let`s limit the application area of TokenStatusList to the US only 😉

Von: Michael Schwartz <[email protected]>
Gesendet: Dienstag, 8. April 2025 18:51
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I very much support moving the Token Status List draft forward.

Gluu (via Janssen Project) has already implemented the draft spec and we've 
found it to be an invaluable new tool in our toolbox.

Mike

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From: Brian Campbell 
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Subject: [OAUTH-WG] Re: Second WGLC for Token Status List
To: Steffen Schwalm 
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On Thu, Apr 3, 2025 at 11:33 AM Steffen Schwalm 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:

> I strongly oppose against moving forward the specification as Issues still
> open.
>
>
>
>    1. There´s no documented decision on the well-known x509 issue –
>    beside the wishes of the authors
>
>
Having seen and participated in discussion of the issue on the mailing
list, at "unofficial" events with WG participants, and at official events
with WG participants - the decision was very clearly based on the wishes of
the rough consensus of the WG participants. Speaking as an individual, of
course.




>    1.
>    2. Still wait for information from chairs where and how to solve issue
>    when not in TokenStatusList
>    3. Means TokenStatusList contains privacy issue in case used for
>    Attestatiosn of attributes in eIDAS
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Kristina Yasuda 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 2. April 2025 00:22
> *An:* ANTHONY NADALIN <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> *Cc:* 
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>;
>  oauth <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> *Betreff:* [OAUTH-WG] Re: Second WGLC for Token Status List
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> I support moving this specification forward. It is a crucial building
> block for lifecycle management of different tokens/credentials.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 1, 2025 at 9:42 PM ANTHONY NADALIN 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> wrote:
>
> support this moving forward as we need this in ISO
>
>
>
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> *From:* 
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>  <torsten=
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> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 1, 2025 11:38:22 AM
> *To:* oauth <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; Rifaat Shekh-Yusef 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> *Subject:* [OAUTH-WG] Re: Second WGLC for Token Status List
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I support moving this spec forward.
>
>
>
> best regards,
>
> Torsten.
>
> Am 24. März 2025, 13:41 +0100 schrieb Rifaat Shekh-Yusef <
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>:
>
> All,
>
> This is a *second WG Last Call* for the *Token Status List* document:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-oauth-status-list/
>
> Please, review this document and reply on the mailing list if you have any
> comments or concerns, by *April 7th*.
>
> Regards,
>   Rifaat & Hannes
>
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Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2025 06:08:37 +0000
From: Steffen Schwalm 
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Subject: [OAUTH-WG] Re: Second WGLC for Token Status List
To: Brian Campbell 
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Hi Brian,

thanks a lot for your mail. As far as I know informal meetings and assumptions 
of alleged consensus are no basement for trustworthy decisions on open 
standardization and official standardization bodies like IETF as the chairs 
confirmed several times. We are currently in WGLC, after consensus found 
everybody will be happy to follow it.

Independently from this: the subject is under clarification. Maybe we use the 
time to solve the privacy issue TokenStatusList contains immanently if used for 
(Q)EAA in eIDAS.

Best

Steffen






Von: Brian Campbell 
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Gesendet: Montag, 7. April 2025 21:49
An: Steffen Schwalm 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: Kristina Yasuda 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; ANTHONY NADALIN 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>;
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On Thu, Apr 3, 2025 at 11:33 AM Steffen Schwalm 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>>
 wrote:
I strongly oppose against moving forward the specification as Issues still open.


  1.  There´s no documented decision on the well-known x509 issue – beside the 
wishes of the authors

Having seen and participated in discussion of the issue on the mailing list, at 
"unofficial" events with WG participants, and at official events with WG 
participants - the decision was very clearly based on the wishes of the rough 
consensus of the WG participants. Speaking as an individual, of course.




  1.
  2.  Still wait for information from chairs where and how to solve issue when 
not in TokenStatusList
  3.  Means TokenStatusList contains privacy issue in case used for 
Attestatiosn of attributes in eIDAS


Von: Kristina Yasuda 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>>
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. April 2025 00:22
An: ANTHONY NADALIN 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>>
Cc: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>;
 oauth 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>>
Betreff: [OAUTH-WG] Re: Second WGLC for Token Status List


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I support moving this specification forward. It is a crucial building block for 
lifecycle management of different tokens/credentials.

On Tue, Apr 1, 2025 at 9:42 PM ANTHONY NADALIN 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>>
 wrote:
support this moving forward as we need this in ISO

Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>
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Sent: Tuesday, April 1, 2025 11:38:22 AM
To: oauth 
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 Rifaat Shekh-Yusef 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>>
Subject: [OAUTH-WG] Re: Second WGLC for Token Status List

Hi,

I support moving this spec forward.

best regards,
Torsten.
Am 24. März 2025, 13:41 +0100 schrieb Rifaat Shekh-Yusef 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>>:
All,

This is a second WG Last Call for the Token Status List document:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-oauth-status-list/

Please, review this document and reply on the mailing list if you have any 
comments or concerns, by April 7th.

Regards,
  Rifaat & Hannes

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