On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Ralf Gommers <ralf.gomm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 1:59 AM, Ralf Gommers <ralf.gomm...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> >> >> On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 1:54 AM, Ralf Gommers <ralf.gomm...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 8:11 PM, Warren Weckesser < >>> warren.weckes...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 12:31 AM, Nathaniel Smith <n...@pobox.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> Apparently it is not well known that if you have a Python project >>>>> source tree (e.g., a numpy checkout), then the correct way to install >>>>> it is NOT to type >>>>> >>>>> python setup.py install # bad and broken! >>>>> >>>>> but rather to type >>>>> >>>>> pip install . >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> FWIW, I don't see any mention of this in the numpy docs, but I do see a >>>> lot of instructions involving `setup.py build` and `setup.py install`. >>>> See, for example, INSTALL.txt. Also see >>>> >>>> http://docs.scipy.org/doc/numpy/user/install.html#building-from-source >>>> So I guess it is not surprising that it is not well known. >>>> >>> >>> Indeed, install docs are always hopelessly outdated. And we have too >>> many of them. There's duplicate info in INSTALL.txt and >>> http://scipy.org/scipylib/building/index.html for example. We should >>> probably just empty out INSTALL.txt and simply put a link in it to the html >>> docs. >>> >>> I've created an issue with a long todo list and a bunch of links: >>> https://github.com/numpy/numpy/issues/6599. Feel free to add stuff. Or >>> to go fix something:) >>> >> >> Oh, and: looking at this thread there haven't been serious unanswered >> concerns (at least in my perception), so without more discussion I'd >> interpret the current status as "go ahead". >> > > Hmm, after some more testing I'm going to have to bring up a few concerns > myself: > > 1. ``pip install .`` still has a clear bug; it starts by copying > everything (including .git/ !) to a tempdir with shutil, which is very > slow. And the fix for that will go via ``setup.py sdist``, which is still > slow. > > 2. ``pip install .`` silences build output, which may make sense for some > usecases, but for numpy it just sits there for minutes with no output after > printing "Running setup.py install for numpy". Users will think it hangs > and Ctrl-C it. https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/2732 > > 3. ``pip install .`` refuses to upgrade an already installed development > version. For released versions that makes sense, but if I'm in a git tree > then I don't want it to refuse because 1.11.0.dev0+githash1 compares equal > to 1.11.0.dev0+githash2. Especially after waiting a few minutes, see (1). > > > I've sent a (incomplete) fix for the shutil thing ( > https://github.com/pypa/pip/pull/3219) and will comment on some open > issues on the pip tracker. But I'm thinking that for now we should go with > some printed message first. Something like "please use ``pip install .`` if > you want reliable uninstall behavior. See <somelink> for more details". > > Pip has worked quite well for me in the past, but the above makes me thing > it's not much of an improvement over use of setuptools..... > Which version of pip? Chuck
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