I completely agree. I don't think self-merging is a good idea. I had gotten used to self merging to SciPy and NumPy until roughly 2008 or 2009 when I was finally broken of that habit after stepping on a few people's toes and learning better habits.
On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Benjamin Root <ben.v.r...@gmail.com> wrote: > To expand on Ryan's point a bit about recusal... this is why we have a > general policy against self-merging and why peer review is so valuable. A > ban on self-merging is much like recusal, and I think it is a fantastic > policy. > > As for a BDFL, I used to like that idea having seen it work well for Linux > and Python, but I have found it at odds with the policy of recusal and no > self-merging. That said, as I am sure Thomas Caswell can attest, a > non-self-merging policy can result in a lot of ideas getting stalled, > waiting for review that may or may not happen. I don't know what the > solution is, but I am sympathetic to those who are apprehensive about a > BDFL -- regardless of who is in that role. > > Ben Root > > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Stefan van der Walt <stef...@berkeley.edu > > wrote: > >> Hi Travis >> >> On 2015-09-22 03:44:12, Travis Oliphant <tra...@continuum.io> wrote: >> > I'm actually offended that so many at BIDS seem eager to crucify my >> > intentions when I've done nothing but give away my time, my energy, my >> > resources, and my sleep to NumPy for many, many years. I guess if >> your >> > intent is to drive me away, then you are succeeding. >> >> I guess we've gone off the rails pretty far at this point, so let me at >> least take a step back, and make sure that you know that: >> >> - I have never doubted that your intensions for NumPy are anything but >> good (I know they are!), >> - I *want* the community to be a welcoming place for companies to >> contribute (otherwise, I guess I'd not be such a fervent supporter of >> the scientific eco-system using the BSD license), and >> - I love your enthusiasm for the project. After all, that is a big part >> of what inspired me to become involved in the first place. >> >> My goal is not to spread uncertainty, fear nor doubt—if that was the >> perception left, I apologize. >> >> I'll re-iterate that I wanted to highlight a concern about the >> interactions of a (somewhat weakly cohesive) community and strong, >> driven personalities such as yourself backed by a formidable amount of >> development power. No matter how good your intensions are, there are >> risks involved in this kind of interaction, and if we fail to even >> *admit* that, we are in trouble. >> >> Lest the above be read in a negative light again, let me state it >> up-front: *I don't think you will hijack the project, use it for your >> own gain, or attempt to do anything you don't believe to be in the best >> interest of NumPy.* What I'm saying is that we absolutely need to move >> forward in a way that brings everyone along, and makes everyone rest >> assured that their voice will be heard. >> >> Also, please know that I have not discussed these matters with Nathaniel >> behind the scenes, other than an informal hour-long discussion about his >> original governance proposal. There is no BIDS conspiracy or attempts >> at crucifixion. After all, you were an invited guest speaker at an >> event I organized this weekend, since I value your opinion and insights. >> >> Either way, let me again apologize if my suggested lack of insight hurt >> people's feelings. I can only hope that, in educating me, we all learn >> a few lessons. >> >> Stéfan >> _______________________________________________ >> NumPy-Discussion mailing list >> NumPy-Discussion@scipy.org >> https://mail.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion >> > > > _______________________________________________ > NumPy-Discussion mailing list > NumPy-Discussion@scipy.org > https://mail.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion > > -- *Travis Oliphant* *Co-founder and CEO* @teoliphant 512-222-5440 http://www.continuum.io
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