Hi, On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 7:59 AM, Nathaniel Smith <n...@pobox.com> wrote: > [Popping this off to its own thread to try and keep things easier to follow] > > On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Nathan Goldbaum <nathan12...@gmail.com> > wrote: >>> - Lament: it would be really nice if we could get more people to >>> test our beta releases, because in practice right now 1.x.0 ends >>> up being where we actually the discover all the bugs, and 1.x.1 is >>> where it actually becomes usable. Which sucks, and makes it >>> difficult to have a solid policy about what counts as a >>> regression, etc. Is there anything we can do about this? >> >> Just a note in here - have you all thought about running the test suites for >> downstream projects as part of the numpy test suite? > > I don't think it came up, but it's not a bad idea! The main problems I > can foresee are: > 1) Since we don't know the downstream code, it can be hard to > interpret test suite failures. OTOH for changes we're uncertain of we > already do often end up running some downstream test suites by hand, > so it can only be an improvement on that... > 2) Sometimes everyone including downstream agrees that breaking > something is actually a good idea and they should just deal, but what > do you do then? > > These both seem solvable though. > > I guess a good strategy would be to compile a travis-compatible wheel > of $PACKAGE version $latest-stable against numpy 1.x, and then in the > 1.(x+1) development period numpy would have an additional travis run > which, instead of running the numpy test suite, instead does: > pip install . > pip install $PACKAGE-$latest-stable.whl > python -c 'import package; package.test()' # adjust as necessary > ? Where $PACKAGE is something like scipy / pandas / astropy / ... > matplotlib would be nice but maybe impractical...? > > Maybe someone else will have objections but it seems like a reasonable > idea to me. Want to put together a PR? Asides from fame and fortune > and our earnest appreciation, your reward is you get to make sure that > the packages you care about are included so that we break them less > often in the future ;-).
One simple way to get going would be for the release manager to trigger a build from this repo: https://github.com/matthew-brett/travis-wheel-builder This build would then upload a wheel to: http://travis-wheels.scikit-image.org/ The upstream packages would have a test grid which included an entry with something like: pip install -f http://travis-wheels.scikit-image.org --pre numpy Cheers, Matthew _______________________________________________ NumPy-Discussion mailing list NumPy-Discussion@scipy.org http://mail.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion