> I'm not on the python mailing lists, but my impression is that python > is in a different space from numpy. I mean, I have the impression
Indeed one could seek out philosphical differences between different projects. No two projects are the same but they can and often do have common issues. About the issues that Fernando mentioned I can say that they are real, they do apply and this I say from a from the experience of being on the numpy mailing list. I think that many silent numpy users will thank the creation of a low barrier, low noise (noise is context sensitive) forum where they can ask for help with what they feel are simple questions with easy answers. I still do not have a tangible grasp of what your fears are. It seems you are unhappy that this will split the community. It wont, its just two lists for the same community where mails have been sorted into different folders. It also seems the notion of developers and users is disagreeable to you and you are philosophically hesitant about accepting/recognizing that such a difference exists. I may be wrong, I do not intend to speak for you, I am only trying to understand your objections. First let me assure you they are labels on (temporary) roles not on a person (if that is what is making you uncomfortable). Different people occupy different states for different amounts of time. A question about how to run length decode an array of integers is very different from a question on which files to touch to add reduceat( ) support to the numexpression engine and how. It would be strange to take the position that there is no difference between the nature of these questions. Or to take the position that the person who is interest in the former is also keen to learn about the former (note: some would be, example: yours sincerely. I know the former ot the latter ) or at the least keen on receiving mails on extended discussion on the topic of lesser interest. It seems to me, that sorting these mails into different bins only improves the contextual signal to noise ratio, which the recipient can use as he/she feels fit. The only issue is if there will be enough volume for each of these bins. My perception is yes but this can certainly be revisited. In anycase it does not prevent nor hinder any activity, but allows flexible organization of content should one want it. > So, it may not make sense to think in terms of a model that works for Python, > or even, IPython. I do not want to read too much into this, but this I do find kind of odd and confusing: to proactively solicit input from other related projects but then say that do do not apply once the views expressed werent in total agreement. This thread is coming close to veer into the non-technical/non-productive/argumentative zone. The type that I am fearful off, so I will stop here. But I would encourage you to churn these views in your mind, impersonally, to see if the idea of different lists have any merit and to seek out what are the tangible harm that can come out of it. I think this request has come before (hasten to add not initiated by me) and the response had been largely been in favor, but nothing has happened. So I would welcome information on: if indeed two lists are to be made, who gets to create those lists Best, srean _______________________________________________ NumPy-Discussion mailing list [email protected] http://mail.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion
