Good for us Feds! (But I'm sure some people will think it's a waste of money) Not sure how that impacts our building here, but actually the landscaping is not too bad considering where we are. I don't know what's native in our front planting.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Starn, Groundwater Specialist U.S. Geological Survey 101 Pitkin Street East Hartford, CT 06108 (860) 291-6746 [email protected] "Our observation of the planets' regular motion was the first triumph of empirical science over irrational dogma. We named them after the gods just to be safe." --Jon Stewart --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Date: 02/22/2012 08:52 AM Subject: NumPy-Discussion Digest, Vol 65, Issue 165 Sent by: [email protected] Send NumPy-Discussion mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of NumPy-Discussion digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Where is arrayobject.h? (Neal Becker) 2. Re: Where is arrayobject.h? (V. Armando Sol?) 3. Re: Proposed Roadmap Overview (Gael Varoquaux) 4. Live coding demonstration ([email protected]) 5. Re: Live coding demonstration (Flavio Coelho) 6. Re: Proposed Roadmap Overview (Neal Becker) 7. Re: Proposed Roadmap Overview (Perry Greenfield) 8. Re: Live coding demonstration (Fahredd?n Basegmez) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 13:26:17 -0500 From: Neal Becker <[email protected]> Subject: [Numpy-discussion] Where is arrayobject.h? To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" What is the correct way to find the installed location of arrayobject.h? On fedora, I had been using: (via scons): import distutils.sysconfig PYTHONINC = distutils.sysconfig.get_python_inc() PYTHONLIB = distutils.sysconfig.get_python_lib(1) NUMPYINC = PYTHONLIB + '/numpy/core/include' But on ubuntu, this fails. It seems numpy was installed into /usr/local/lib/..., while PYTHONLIB expands to /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages. Is there a universal method? ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:31:55 +0100 From: "V. Armando Sol?" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Numpy-discussion] Where is arrayobject.h? To: Discussion of Numerical Python <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 21/02/2012 19:26, Neal Becker wrote: > What is the correct way to find the installed location of arrayobject.h? > > On fedora, I had been using: > (via scons): > > import distutils.sysconfig > PYTHONINC = distutils.sysconfig.get_python_inc() > PYTHONLIB = distutils.sysconfig.get_python_lib(1) > > NUMPYINC = PYTHONLIB + '/numpy/core/include' > > But on ubuntu, this fails. It seems numpy was installed into > /usr/local/lib/..., while PYTHONLIB expands to /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages. > > Is there a universal method? > > I use: import numpy numpy.get_include() If that is universal I cannot tell. Armando ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 23:18:53 +0100 From: Gael Varoquaux <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview To: Discussion of Numerical Python <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 05:44:27AM -0500, David Warde-Farley wrote: > I think the comments about the developer audience NumPy will attract are important. There may be lots of C++ developers out there, but the intersection of (truly competent in C++) and (likely to involve oneself in NumPy development) may well be quite small. That's a very valid concern. It is reminiscent of a possible cause to our lack of contributors to Mayavi: contributing to Mayavi requires knowing VTK. One of the major benefits of Mayavi is that it makes it is to use the power of VTK without understanding it well. The intersection of the people interested in using Mayavi and able to contribute to it is almost empty. This is stricking to me, because I know a lot of who know VTK well. Most of them couldn't care less for Mayavi: they are happy coding directly in VTK in C++. This is also a reason why I don't code UIs any more: I simply cannot find the resource to maintain them in proportion with the number of users that they garner. A sad statement. Gael ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:31:27 -0600 From: <[email protected]> Subject: [Numpy-discussion] Live coding demonstration To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII This is the sort of programming environment I would love to have in python. http://flowingdata.com/2012/02/20/live-coding-and-inventing-on-principle/ -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- | Alan K. Jackson | To see a World in a Grain of Sand | | [email protected] | And a Heaven in a Wild Flower, | | www.ajackson.org | Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand | | Houston, Texas | And Eternity in an hour. - Blake | ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:34:27 -0200 From: Flavio Coelho <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Numpy-discussion] Live coding demonstration To: Discussion of Numerical Python <[email protected]> Message-ID: <CAAbyzbQRGg1ukD9aBBBshPJx-rTnc1dagFiYTkSofBFe=mh...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Shouldn't be hard to implement as a set of plugins to an editor. Hope someone starts such a project. On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 00:31, <[email protected]> wrote: > This is the sort of programming environment I would love to have in > python. > > > http://flowingdata.com/2012/02/20/live-coding-and-inventing-on-principle/ > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > | Alan K. Jackson | To see a World in a Grain of Sand | > | [email protected] | And a Heaven in a Wild Flower, | > | www.ajackson.org | Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand | > | Houston, Texas | And Eternity in an hour. - Blake | > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > NumPy-Discussion mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion > -- Fl?vio Code?o Coelho ================ +55(21) 3799-5567 Professor Escola de Matem?tica Aplicada Funda??o Get?lio Vargas Rio de Janeiro - RJ Brasil -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.scipy.org/pipermail/numpy-discussion/attachments/20120222/46382d84/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 07:25:10 -0500 From: Neal Becker <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" It's great advice to say avoid using new instead rely on scope and classes such as std::vector. I just want to point out, that sometimes objects must outlive scope. For those cases, std::shared_ptr can be helpful. ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:44:27 -0500 From: Perry Greenfield <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview To: Discussion of Numerical Python <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes I, like Travis, have my worries about C++. But if those actually doing the work (and particularly the subsequent support) feel it is the best language for implementation, I can live with that. I particularly like the incremental and conservative approach to introducing C++ that was proposed by Mark. What I would like to stress in doing this that all along that process, extensive testing is performed (preferably with some build-bot process) to ensure that whatever C++ features are being introduced are fully portable and don't present intractable distribution issues. Whatever we do, we don't want to go far down that road only to find out that there is no good solution in that regard with certain platforms. We are particularly sensitive to this issue since we distribute our software, and anything that makes installation of numpy problematic is a very serious issue for us. It has to be an easy install on all common platforms. That is one thing C allowed, despite all its flaws, which is near universal installation advantages over any other language available. If the appropriate subset of C++ can achieve that, great. But it has to be proved continuously as it is incrementally adopted. (I'm not much persuaded by comments like "my experience has shown it not to be a problem") Is there any disagreement with this? It's less clear to me what to do about more unusual platforms. It seems to me that some sort of testing against those that may prove important in the future (e.g., gpus?) will be needed, but how to do this is not clear to me. Perry ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:51:51 -0500 From: Fahredd?n Basegmez <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Numpy-discussion] Live coding demonstration To: Discussion of Numerical Python <[email protected]> Message-ID: <cae5nfoleti+faptzy+ycddtq1mih6luy6px3dmq2op1qa4y...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I have been working on an application somehow similar to his approach. Instead of trying to explain what it is I will let you see it yourselves. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQUW5BvdIkc&list=UUiomLkTUHKpZohYYfj1WsMg&index=7&feature=plcp http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjpUmSfo3mY&list=UUiomLkTUHKpZohYYfj1WsMg&index=6&feature=plcp http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1pdoLi6UPc&list=UUiomLkTUHKpZohYYfj1WsMg&index=9&feature=plcp http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y1nWiIoKk8&list=UUiomLkTUHKpZohYYfj1WsMg&index=3&feature=plcp Fahri On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 6:34 AM, Flavio Coelho <[email protected]> wrote: > Shouldn't be hard to implement as a set of plugins to an editor. > Hope someone starts such a project. > > > > > On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 00:31, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> This is the sort of programming environment I would love to have in >> python. >> >> >> http://flowingdata.com/2012/02/20/live-coding-and-inventing-on-principle/ >> >> -- >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> | Alan K. 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