Oh, I did it in the school I was in, too. I had a huge amount of resistance that needed to be overcome.
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Brian Desmond <[email protected]>wrote: > *When I worked for a K-12 (~450K students), we issued accounts to all > students at any school that was using our central AD. I’ve seen the same > practice at the other K-12 districts I’ve worked at. * > > * * > > *Thanks,* > > *Brian Desmond* > > *[email protected]* <[email protected]>** > > * * > > *w – 312.625.1438 | c – 312.731.3132* > > * * > > *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* Monday, January 7, 2013 10:12 AM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Replacement for SteadyState**** > > ** ** > > Universities are a much different beast than primary and secondary schools. > **** > > ** ** > > 1) Logging out was part of the Acceptable Use Policy, meaning it is the > student's responsibility to log out.**** > > 2) Teachers were taught to double check that students logged out.**** > > 3) Teachers in labs, put it on their syllabus, and those who used labs > regularly but were not actually in a lab, did so, as well, to remind > students that not logging off could result in a loss of work.**** > > 4) Make sure that you give teachers some mechanism for resetting student > passwords to some default password, and unlocking the account. This became > a huge problem in the school I worked at previously. I had to roll my own > solution at the time. Having a solution for this in place before you > switch over will make life so much easier.**** > > 5) Disable locking of the computer for student accounts.**** > > ** ** > > I'm probably missing something, but it's been 7 years since I left that > job.**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Brian Desmond <[email protected]> > wrote:**** > > *Yeah ... For all the universities I’ve worked at and had this > discussion, this perceived problem has never morphed into an actual issue. > ***** > > * ***** > > *Thanks,***** > > *Brian Desmond***** > > *[email protected]* <[email protected]>**** > > * ***** > > *w – **312.625.1438* <312.625.1438>* | c – **312.731.3132* <312.731.3132>* > *** > > * ***** > > *From:* Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* Monday, January 7, 2013 9:09 AM**** > > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: Replacement for SteadyState**** > > **** > > **** > > “…….. how do you handle situations where students don’t logout before they > leave…… then student 2 has access to student 1’s account.”**** > > **** > > Self-correcting problem. Student 2 deletes all of Students 1’s stuff and > Student 1 never does it again. With 7,000 students we have very little > trouble with this issue actually.**** > > **** > > Also we set inactivity timeouts so they auto log out.**** > > **** > > I would not go with generic accounts. There is no accountability, no > tracking of what they do….**** > > **** > > **** > > *From:* Glen Johnson [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] > *Sent:* Monday, January 07, 2013 10:04 AM**** > > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: Replacement for SteadyState**** > > **** > > No on the student login. We use a generic account per classroom.**** > > We’ve talked about moving to a individual student login, but I’m not sure > we need or want that.**** > > For others that have gone that route, how do you handle situations where > students don’t logout before they leave.**** > > You either have a locked computer, logged on as said student or if not > locked, then student 2 has access to student 1’s account.**** > > **** > > *From:* Brian Desmond [mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>] > > *Sent:* Monday, January 07, 2013 9:32 AM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: Replacement for SteadyState**** > > **** > > *Sure so scenarios where you’re teaching classes that require changes to > the OS to accomplish the class makes good sense and I’d not argue against a > solution like DeepFreeze in that case.***** > > * ***** > > *In the case of things like wallpaper and user profile stuff, are you not > using named user accounts for your students? That solves a bunch of this on > the spot. ***** > > * ***** > > *Thanks,***** > > *Brian Desmond***** > > *[email protected]* <[email protected]>**** > > * ***** > > *w – **312.625.1438* <312.625.1438>* | c – **312.731.3132* <312.731.3132>* > *** > > * ***** > > *From:* Glen Johnson [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] > *Sent:* Monday, January 7, 2013 7:42 AM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: Replacement for SteadyState**** > > **** > > We teach classes and let the students make any and all changes to the > desktop environment.**** > > Here’s one example. Student comes in and sets the desktop wallpaper to > his favorite pinup gal. Next student doesn’t like it, but is a beginner > and doesn’t know how to change it to something else. Reboot and the pin up > gal is gone.**** > > Also, I’ve seen some programs/apps that can now be installed without admin > rights, Google Chrome for example.**** > > Not a problem with Deep Freeze.**** > > **** > > I’m sure there are other ways to do this, but DeepFreeze works great in > our environment.**** > > **** > > *From:* Brian Desmond [mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>] > > *Sent:* Sunday, January 06, 2013 4:36 PM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: Replacement for SteadyState**** > > **** > > *I’ve worked at a lot of customers that use DeepFreeze and similar > products and I’m not a huge fan of the concept in general. It makes the > overall lifecycle maintenance of a desktop environment a heck of a lot more > complicated.***** > > * ***** > > *The question I always pose (and usually don’t get much of a response > to), is “what problems/issues is DeepFreeze protecting you from that > running as a local user wouldn’t solve?”***** > > * ***** > > *Thanks,***** > > *Brian Desmond***** > > *[email protected]* <[email protected]>**** > > * ***** > > *w – **312.625.1438* <312.625.1438>* | c – **312.731.3132* <312.731.3132>* > *** > > * ***** > > *From:* Glen Johnson [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] > *Sent:* Friday, January 4, 2013 11:33 AM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: Replacement for SteadyState**** > > **** > > Not free, but we could not function at the school without DeepFreeze.**** > > **** > > *From:* Bambi J Saastad > [mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>] > > *Sent:* Friday, January 04, 2013 11:36 AM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Replacement for SteadyState**** > > **** > > Hello**** > > I was wondering if any of you could suggest a replacement for SteadyState. > **** > > I have a roomful of pc's that the factory users use for browsing etc that > I am replacing with Windows 7 Pro that need to be locked down.**** > > **** > > Can anyone suggest a product that does the same thing, wipe out any > changes on reboot? > > TIA > B > **** > > **** > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to [email protected] > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin**** > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to [email protected] > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin**** > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to [email protected] > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin**** > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to [email protected] > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin**** > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to [email protected] > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin**** > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to [email protected] > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin**** > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to [email protected] > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin**** > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to [email protected] > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin**** > > ** ** > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to [email protected] > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin**** > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to [email protected] > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to [email protected] with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
