On 12/31/25 4:15 PM, Joel Fernandes wrote:
>> On Dec 31, 2025, at 5:47 PM, John Hubbard <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> On 12/31/25 2:33 PM, Timur Tabi wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 2025-12-31 at 13:47 -0800, John Hubbard wrote:
>>>> The builder-pattern setters (self -> Self) enabled method chaining like:
>>>>
>>>>     reg.set_foo(x).set_sec(y).write(bar);
>>>>
>>>> This made separate operations appear as a single expression, obscuring
>>>> that each setter is a distinct mutation. 
>>>
>>> So you're concerned about the fact that the compiler is not merging the 
>>> set_foo(x) and the
>>> set_sec(y) into a single read-modify-write?
>>
>> No, I don't care about that aspect.
>>
>>>
>>>> These setters are infallible,
>>>> so the chaining provides no error-propagation benefit—it just obscures
>>>> what are simple, independent assignments.
>>>>
>>>> Change the bitfield!() macro to generate `&mut self` setters, so each
>>>> operation is a distinct statement:
>>>>
>>>>     reg.set_foo(x);
>>>>     reg.set_sec(y);
>>>>     reg.write(bar);
>>>
>>> Are you sure about this?  It just seems like you're throwing out a neat 
>>> little feature of Rust and
>>> replacing it with something that's very C-like.  This breaks compatible 
>>> with all users of the regs
>>> macros.  Seems really disruptive for what seems to me like a cosmetic 
>>> change.
>>>
>>
>> It's only a neat feature if it *does* something. In this case, it *looks*
>> like a neat Rust feature, but under the covers it really is just handing
>> around copies unnecessarily, when really, it *is* doing the C-like thing
>> in the end.
>>
>> I object to the fake Rust-ness that's being done here. It's like putting
>> hubcabs on a car.
> 
> But IMO there is only one operation here, the IO write. The setter is just 
> mutations. Builder pattern chaining is idiomatic to Rust.
> 
> I would not call it fake Rustness since it is Rustness in the Rust language. 
> Afair, similar arguments were made before and conclusion was, well, this is 
> Rust.

There is nothing about doing sequential .set_foo() calls that goes against
Rust idioms.

But this really is fake chaining, because there are no Results involved.
It's not buying us anything except a bit of indirection and cognitive
load for the reader.

> 
> Regarding the copies, I am intrigued - have you verified that the code 
> generation actually results in copies? I would be surprised if the compiler 
> did not optimize.


No no, I just mean conceptually using Copy instead of a mutable Self.

thanks,
-- 
John Hubbard

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