This the point it'd be good to open up a question on AskUbuntu. Upload the
logs (after optional anonimization if needed) to pastebin, link them in the
question and see what the community says. The Xfce version, Ubuntu variant
and version, and possibly some hardware spec can be important. Once you
create the question please link it here

On Sun, Mar 22, 2020, 2:02 PM Paul Boniol <[email protected]> wrote:

> I have waited over a minute, timed.  Yes it normally flashes and then
> comes back, open programs (e.g. terminal) usually close.
> xsession-errors has a lot of messages (probably because LTS is running an
> older code base and doesn't always update to the latest versions).
> dmesg appears normal.
> There are no ~/.xfce4* files.
>
> On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 7:05 PM Csaba Toth <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Good to hear. As for the Logout, how much do you wait after the first
>> attempt? It's like flashing and stuff and then coming back?
>> What do these files say, right after the point you click Logout once (and
>> then wait for a while and the logout fails):
>> ~/.xsession-errors
>> ~/.xfce4-session.verbose-log
>> dmesg
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 1:43 PM Paul Boniol <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks! I now have volume control in the panel area.
>>>
>>> I try to log off by clicking my name in the panel area, Log Out..., Log
>>> Out. It usually takes 4 repetitions to get logged out. This time I think it
>>> took 5.
>>>
>>> ---Paul Boniol.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 21, 2020, 11:54 AM Csaba Toth <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 1. Does the 4th logoff successful? Are you using the Action Buttons (on
>>>> the panel) or another way?
>>>> I've had trouble with logoff before, right now with lock screen, but
>>>> this can be distribution & Xfce version specific.
>>>> My best bet: open a question on AskUbuntu with the version details
>>>>
>>>> 2. PulseAudio has a panel plugin and that provides me detailed
>>>> controls,
>>>> [image: Screenshot_2020-03-21_09-51-29.png]
>>>>
>>>> This is Xfce4 4.14.3, I'm using Devuan Beowulf / Ceres. So I'm
>>>> systemd-less, but not completely de-Poetterized because I have PulseAudio.
>>>>
>>>> Csaba
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 11:54 PM Paul Boniol <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I've been managing a computer in my home remotely for a couple of
>>>>> years. I haven't really had a reason to access it directly again, until
>>>>> recently.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. When I try to logoff, from either of two accounts, I always have to
>>>>> click logoff 4 times...
>>>>>
>>>>> Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS, xfce4. Any ideas on what could be causing this?
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. A minor nuisance, I am doing video editing on it. Seems to default
>>>>> to 100% volume at login, which is too loud. I haven't been able to figure
>>>>> out how to easily control the volume. I can do it from the command line 
>>>>> via
>>>>> alsamixer, but I haven't been able to find anything online that provides 
>>>>> an
>>>>> easier interface. (Everything I find is older, recommended packages are
>>>>> installed, commands give errors or aren't in the packages anymore, etc.)
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul Boniol
>>>>>
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