Re: [nlug] Awwww Man!

Howard White Mon, 07 Oct 2019 12:38:35 -0700

I have a supply, thank you.  :D

Just try and find a motherboard with a 25 pin parallel port! A PCIecard? I have not looked; don't wanna know...


Howard

On 10/7/19 2:35 PM, Alex Smith (K4RNT) wrote:

Buy a used JetDirect. Could that solve your problems?

" 'With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured,the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us allirrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdomand warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we’re alldamaged." - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNGepisode "The Drumhead"

- Alex Smith
- Kent, Washington (metropolitan Seattle area)

On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 12:34 PM Howard White <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


    Not at all, Alex.  I get it.  You saw my struggle with Arch (for
    which I
    have tremendous respect but zero luck).

    This issue is CUPS which many distros use.  My RTFM of lpadmin was
    short
    because the entire lpadmin/lp/lpr suite has been overtaken by Apple.

    Suggestions solicited for a program to send raw print to a network
    enabled (can you say "JetDirect") dot-matrix printer.  Something less
    than dd, thank you.

    Howard

    On 10/7/19 2:24 PM, Alex Smith (K4RNT) wrote:
     > I hope I didn't come across as a troll, I was just venting when
    anyone
     > tries to complain about Ubuntu when they were the ones screaming
    about
     > how it's the only Linux they'll use, or anything else is not "easy"
     > enough. I have really good luck with openSUSE, Red
    Hat/CentOS/Scientific
     > Linux/Oracle Linux as well as Solaris and OpenIndiana.
     >
     > Best regards...
     >
     > -Alex
     >
     > " 'With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech
    censured,
     > the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all
     > irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as
    wisdom
     > and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on,
    we’re all
     > damaged." - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star
    Trek: TNG
     > episode "The Drumhead"
     > - Alex Smith
     > - Kent, Washington (metropolitan Seattle area)
     >
     >
     > On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 12:12 PM Howard White <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>
     > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
     >
     >     Creating a print queue external to CUPS really was the point
    of my
     >     gripe, Alex.  Ah how we have grown stale by using tools (or
    trolls
     >     depending on how they do or do not work) such as CUPS or the ever
     >     popular NetworkManager.
     >
     >     Now off to RTFM the lpadmin man page.
     >
     >     Howard
     >
     >     On 10/7/19 2:02 PM, Alex Smith (K4RNT) wrote:
     >      > I remember when I had a dot matrix printer and using it
    under Linux
     >      > (think Slackware in the end of the 90s), CUPS wasn't
    around, and
     >     I just
     >      > created a raw lpr queue. The printer was an Epson 9-pin dot
     >     matrix printer.
     >      >
     >      > Is that no longer possible?
     >      >
     >      > " 'With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech
     >     censured,
     >      > the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied,
    chains us all
     >      > irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as
     >     wisdom
     >      > and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on,
     >     we’re all
     >      > damaged." - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star
     >     Trek: TNG
     >      > episode "The Drumhead"
     >      > - Alex Smith
     >      > - Kent, Washington (metropolitan Seattle area)
     >      >
     >      >
     >      > On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 11:52 AM Howard White
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
     >     <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
     >      > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>> wrote:
     >      >
     >      >     With a Raw Queue, there is no ppd.
     >      >
     >      >     Howard
     >      >
     >      >     On 10/7/19 1:51 PM, Alex Smith (K4RNT) wrote:
     >      >      > Can't you just import the PPDs from 16.04?
     >      >      >
     >      >      >
     >      >      > " 'With the first link, the chain is forged. The
    first speech
     >      >     censured,
     >      >      > the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied,
     >     chains us all
     >      >      > irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge
    Aaron Satie as
     >      >     wisdom
     >      >      > and warning... The first time any man's freedom is
    trodden on,
     >      >     we’re all
     >      >      > damaged." - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron
    Satie, Star
     >      >     Trek: TNG
     >      >      > episode "The Drumhead"
     >      >      > - Alex Smith
     >      >      > - Kent, Washington (metropolitan Seattle area)
     >      >      >
     >      >      >
     >      >      > On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 11:50 AM Howard White
     >     <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
     >      >     <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
     >      >      > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
     >     <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>>> wrote:
     >      >      >
     >      >      >     The source of the issue seems to be CUPS which
    is more
     >     than
     >      >     just Ubuntu.
     >      >      >
     >      >      >     Howard
     >      >      >
     >      >      >     On 10/7/19 1:47 PM, Alex Smith (K4RNT) wrote:
     >      >      >      > Guess Ubuntu isn't the magic bullet people
    claim it
     >     to be? :P
     >      >      >      >
     >      >      >      > That still sucks! Maybe other distros have that
     >     support still?
     >      >      >      >
     >      >      >      >
     >      >      >      > " 'With the first link, the chain is forged. The
     >     first speech
     >      >      >     censured,
     >      >      >      > the first thought forbidden, the first
    freedom denied,
     >      >     chains us all
     >      >      >      > irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge
     >     Aaron Satie as
     >      >      >     wisdom
     >      >      >      > and warning... The first time any man's
    freedom is
     >     trodden on,
     >      >      >     we’re all
     >      >      >      > damaged." - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron
     >     Satie, Star
     >      >      >     Trek: TNG
     >      >      >      > episode "The Drumhead"
     >      >      >      > - Alex Smith
     >      >      >      > - Kent, Washington (metropolitan Seattle area)
     >      >      >      >
     >      >      >      >
     >      >      >      > On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 11:46 AM Howard White
     >      >     <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
     >     <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
     >      >      >     <mailto:[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>
     >     <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>>
     >      >      >      > <mailto:[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>
     >     <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
     >      >     <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
     >     <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>>>> wrote:
     >      >      >      >
     >      >      >      >     Today's gripe is that Ubuntu 18.04 /
    CUPS (and
     >     others
     >      >     I am quite
     >      >      >      >     sure) [
     >      >      >      >     has | have ] dropped support for a Generid
     >     Printer, Raw
     >      >      >     Queue.  This
     >      >      >      >     means that the dot matrix printer
    (remember them?)
     >      >     that I use
     >      >      >     to print
     >      >      >      >     two part checks does not play nice in Ubuntu
     >     18.04.  Still
     >      >      >     does in
     >      >      >      >     16.04.
     >      >      >      >
     >      >      >      >     I'm looking at a GitHub entry dated
    March 19, 2018
     >      >     where said
     >      >      >      >     removal is

> > > > discussed in the Apple/CUPS dominion."Almost

     >     every
     >      >     printer
     >      >      >      >     manufactured since 2010 supports IPP/2.0
    with
     >     standard
     >      >     file
     >      >      >     formats.
     >      >      >      >
     >      >      >      >     Progress is not always kind.
     >      >      >      >
     >      >      >      >     Howard
     >      >      >      >
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