On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 10:53 AM Thomas Haller <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Fri, 2019-02-22 at 09:31 -0600, Greg Oliver via networkmanager-list
> wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 9:08 AM Thomas Haller <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2019-02-22 at 07:43 -0600, Greg Oliver via networkmanager-
> > > list
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Is there some way to get nm-applet to show unplugged (ethernet
> > > > dongles) devices profiles in it's menu at all times?  All of my
> > > > recent laptops have been thunderbolt usb-c only and my wired
> > > ethernet
> > > > adapters have all been one of the variants, but until I plug them
> > > in,
> > > > I cannot even see my profiles from the GUI anywhere.  Is there
> > > some
> > > > way to change this behavior?
> > > >
> > > > Running Fedora (29).
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > >
> > > nm-applet is a tool (GUI in the system tray bar) to show devices,
> > > which
> > > profiles are currently active, and to activate/deactivate profiles
> > > on
> > > devices.
> > >
> > > Consequently, you don't see profiles that have no suitable device
> > > at
> > > the moment.
> > >
> > > Use nm-connection-editor for that, which only focuses on
> > > creating/modifing/deleting profiles.
> > >
> > >
> > > In nm-applet, you can also right click and select "Edit
> > > Connections...", which spawns nm-connection-editor -- though, I
> > > think
> > > right-click does not work if nm-applet uses libappindicator.
> > > Regardless
> > > of that, you can always start nm-connection-editor manually, the
> > > effect
> > > is the same.
> > >
> > >
> > > Does that work?
> >
> > Perfect - exactly what I needed!
> >
> > Thanks Thomas - I have been looking through the config files and
> > nmcli to flip some switch without luck :)
> >
> > I sure wish that the Gnome folks would not have removed the
> > bonding/vlan/connection stuff from Settings, and I always seem to
> > forget about nm-connection-editor :-/
>
> Hi,
>
>
> your last remark makes me wonder whether you are using Gnome3.
>
> Note that gnome-shell in Gnome3 itself has a NetworkManager
> integration. That is similar in purpose and appearance to nm-applet.
> But nm-applet is a separate application.
>
> Likewise, Gnome3's control-center has a built-in connection-editor.
> That's not the same as nm-connection-editor. While gnome-control-
> center's NetworkManager GUI does not support bonding/vlan, nm-
> connection-editor does.
>
> Just to clear that up -- it is indeed confusing. Use whatever GUI suits
> you.


Yes - gnome3 - just ranting towards it in case some of their developers
read this list :)  They took all that stuff out quite a while ago - which
is fine - I know how to fire up the native NM app/applet.  Thanks again!



>
>

> best,
> Thomas
>
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