> It seems to have stopped when i stopped using ipsec and started using
> vpnc.

Kernel ipsec was active yes. However I normally don't see it although
it is often active, that was the first time I think

(except long ago) 

> (but no firm info - this was sporadic - happened every few months 
> or so) Are you using ipsec and dynamic IPs by any chance?

and the ISP uses dynamic IPs.

-Andi
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