On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 4:52 AM Xie He <xie.he.0...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 2:01 PM Willem de Bruijn > <willemdebruijn.ker...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > There is agreement that hard_header_len should be the length of link > > layer headers visible to the upper layers, needed_headroom the > > additional room required for headers that are not exposed, i.e., those > > pushed inside ndo_start_xmit. > > > > The link layer header length also has to agree with the interface > > hardware type (ARPHRD_..). > > > > Tunnel devices have not always been consistent in this, but today > > "bare" ip tunnel devices without additional headers (ipip, sit, ..) do > > match this and advertise 0 byte hard_header_len. Bareudp, vxlan and > > geneve also conform to this. Known exception that probably needs to be > > addressed is sit, which still advertises LL_MAX_HEADER and so has > > exposed quite a few syzkaller issues. Side note, it is not entirely > > clear to me what sets ARPHRD_TUNNEL et al apart from ARPHRD_NONE and > > why they are needed. > > > > GRE devices advertise ARPHRD_IPGRE and GRETAP advertise ARPHRD_ETHER. > > The second makes sense, as it appears as an Ethernet device. The first > > should match "bare" ip tunnel devices, if following the above logic. > > Indeed, this is what commit e271c7b4420d ("gre: do not keep the GRE > > header around in collect medata mode") implements. It changes > > dev->type to ARPHRD_NONE in collect_md mode. > > > > Some of the inconsistency comes from the various modes of the GRE > > driver. Which brings us to ipgre_header_ops. It is set only in two > > special cases. > > > > Commit 6a5f44d7a048 ("[IPV4] ip_gre: sendto/recvfrom NBMA address") > > added ipgre_header_ops.parse to be able to receive the inner ip source > > address with PF_PACKET recvfrom. And apparently relies on > > ipgre_header_ops.create to be able to set an address, which implies > > SOCK_DGRAM. > > > > The other special case, CONFIG_NET_IPGRE_BROADCAST, predates git. Its > > implementation starts with the beautiful comment "/* Nice toy. > > Unfortunately, useless in real life :-)". From the rest of that > > detailed comment, it is not clear to me why it would need to expose > > the headers. The example does not use packet sockets. > > > > A packet socket cannot know devices details such as which configurable > > mode a device may be in. And different modes conflict with the basic > > rule that for a given well defined link layer type, i.e., dev->type, > > header length can be expected to be consistent. In an ideal world > > these exceptions would not exist, therefore. > > > > Unfortunately, this is legacy behavior that will have to continue to > > be supported. > > Thanks for your explanation. So header_ops for GRE devices is only > used in 2 special situations. In normal situations, header_ops is not > used for GRE devices. And we consider not using header_ops should be > the ideal arrangement for GRE devices. > > Can we create a new dev->type (like ARPHRD_IPGRE_SPECIAL) for GRE > devices that use header_ops? I guess changing dev->type will not > affect the interface to the user space? This way we can solve the > problem of the same dev->type having different hard_header_len values.
But does that address any real issue? If anything, it would make sense to keep ARHPHRD_IPGRE for tunnels that expect headers and switch to ARPHRD_NONE for those that do not. As the collect_md commit I mentioned above does. > Also, for the second special situation, if there's no obvious reason > to use header_ops, maybe we can consider removing header_ops for this > situation. Unfortunately, there's no knowing if some application is using this broadcast mode *with* a process using packet sockets.