On Wednesday 30 September 2020 11:20:20 Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 10:16:40AM +0200, Marcel Holtmann wrote:
> > Hi Greg,
> > 
> > >>>>>>>> I wrote a simple script "sco_features.pl" which show all supported
> > >>>>>>>> codecs by local HCI bluetooth adapter. Script is available at:
> > >>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>> https://github.com/pali/hsphfpd-prototype/blob/prototype/sco_features.pl
> > >>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>> And I found out that OCF_READ_LOCAL_CODECS HCI command cannot be 
> > >>>>>>>> send by
> > >>>>>>>> non-root user. Kernel returns "Operation not permitted" error.
> > >>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>> What is reason that kernel blocks OCF_READ_LOCAL_CODECS command for
> > >>>>>>>> non-root users? Without it (audio) application does not know which
> > >>>>>>>> codecs local bluetooth adapter supports.
> > >>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>> E.g. OCF_READ_LOCAL_EXT_FEATURES or OCF_READ_VOICE_SETTING 
> > >>>>>>>> commands can
> > >>>>>>>> be send also by non-root user and kernel does not block them.
> > >>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>> actually the direct access to HCI commands is being removed. So we 
> > >>>>>>> have no plans to add new commands into the list since that it what 
> > >>>>>>> the kernel is suppose to handle. If we wanted to expose this, then 
> > >>>>>>> it has to be via mgmt.
> > >>>>>> 
> > >>>>>> Hi Marcel! Thank you for information. I have not know that this API 
> > >>>>>> is
> > >>>>>> "deprecated" and is going to be removed. But userspace audio
> > >>>>>> applications need to know what bluetooth adapter supports, so can you
> > >>>>>> export result of these commands to userspace? My script linked above
> > >>>>>> calls: OCF_READ_VOICE_SETTING, OCF_READ_LOCAL_COMMANDS,
> > >>>>>> OCF_READ_LOCAL_EXT_FEATURES, OCF_READ_LOCAL_CODECS
> > >>>>> 
> > >>>>> Hello! Just a gently reminder for this question. How to retrieve
> > >>>>> information about supported codecs from userspace by non-root user?
> > >>>>> Because running all bluetooth audio applications by root is not 
> > >>>>> really a
> > >>>>> solution. Plus if above API for root user is going to be removed, what
> > >>>>> is a replacement?
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> Hello!
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> I have not got any answer to my email from Marcel for months, so I'm
> > >>>> adding other developers to loop. Could somebody tell me that is the
> > >>>> replacement API if above one is going to be removed?
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> I was not able to find any documentation where could be described this
> > >>>> API nor information about deprecation / removal.
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> And are you aware of the fact that removing of API could potentially
> > >>>> break existing applications?
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> I really need to know which API should I use, because when I use API
> > >>>> which is going to be removed, then my application stops working. And I
> > >>>> really want to avoid it.
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> Also I have not got any response yet, how can I read list of supported
> > >>>> codecs by bluetooth adapter by ordinary non-root user? Audio 
> > >>>> application
> > >>>> needs to know list of supported codecs and it is really insane to run 
> > >>>> it
> > >>>> as root.
> > >>> 
> > >>> Hello! This is just another reminder that I have not got any reply to
> > >>> this email.
> > >>> 
> > >>> Does silence mean that audio applications are expected to work only
> > >>> under root account and ordinary users are not able to use audio and list
> > >>> supported codecs?
> > >> 
> > >> Hello! I have not got any reply for this issue for 10 months and if you
> > >> are going to remove (or after these 10 months you already did it?)
> > >> existing HCI API from kernel it would break existing and working
> > >> userspace application. How do you want to handle such regressions?
> > > 
> > > What git commit caused this regression?
> > 
> > there is no regression!
> > 
> > New Bluetooth standards added new HCI commands that are just not
> > exposed to unprivileged users.
> 
> Ok, that makes sense.  What tool takes advantage of these new HCI
> commands?

sco_features as written above (in quoted part).

And today also main daemon in that repository.

> thanks,
> 
> greg k-h

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