Once again, the opinions below are my own and definitely do not represent anything my employer would be seen dead in the same room as.
On 13/07/2020 23:41, Stephen Hemminger wrote: > As far as userspace, maybe keep the old API's but provide deprecation nags. Why would you need to deprecate the old APIs? If the user echoes 'slave' into some sysfs file (or whatever), that indicates that they don't have any problem with using the word. So there's no reason toever remove that support — its _mere existence_ isn't problematic for anyone not actively seeking to be offended. Which I think is more evidence that this change is not motivated by practical concerns but by a kind of performative ritual purity. This is dumb. I suspect you all, including Jarod, know that this is dumb, but you're either going along with it or keeping your head down in the hope that it will all blow over and you can go back to normal. Unfortunately, it doesn't work like that; the activists who push this stuff are never satisfied; making concessions to them results not in peace but in further demands; and just as the corporations today are caving to the current demands for fear of being singled out by the mob, so they will cave again to the next round of demands, and you'll be back in the same position, trying to deal with bosses wanting you to break uAPI without even a technical reason. And next time around, the mob will be bolder and the bosses more pliant, because by giving in this time we'll have signalled that we're weak and easily dominated. I would advise anyone still in doubt of this point to read Kipling's poem "Dane-geld". And we'll all be left wondering why kernel development is so soulless and joyless that no-one, of _any_ colour, aspires to become a kernel hacker any more. It's not too late to stop the crazy, if we all just stop pretending it's sane. -ed
