On Fri, 26 Jun 2020 16:11:49 +0300
Jonathan Morton <chromati...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Toke has already replied, but:
> 
> > Sure, my proposal does not cover the problem of mangling the CE bit inside
> > VLAN-tagged packets, i.e. if we should understand if qdiscs should allow
> > it or not.  
> 
> This is clearly wrong-headed by itself.
> 
> Everything I've heard about VLAN tags thus far indicates that they should be 
> *transparent* to nodes which don't care about them; they determine where the 
> packet goes within the LAN, but not how it behaves.  In particular this means 
> that AQM should be able to apply congestion control signals to them in the 
> normal way, by modifying the ECN field of the IP header encapsulated within.
> 
> The most I would entertain is to incorporate a VLAN tag into the hashes that 
> Cake uses to distinguish hosts and/or flows.  This would account for the case 
> where two hosts on different VLANs of the same physical network have the same 
> IP address.
> 
>  - Jonathan Morton
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The implementation of VLAN's is awkward/flawed. The outer VLAN tag is 
transparent
but the inner VLAN is visible. Similarly the outer VLAN tag doesn't count 
towards
the MTU but inner one does.

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