On Wed, 2019-04-10 at 15:42 +0200, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
> > > That doesn't seem to make much difference at all; it's still dropping a
> > > lot of packets because ptr_ring_produce() is returning non-zero.
> > 
> > 
> > I think you need try to stop the queue just in this case? Ideally we may 
> > want to stop the queue when the queue is about to full, but we don't 
> > have such helper currently.

I don't quite understand. If the ring isn't full after I've put a
packet into it... how can it be full subsequently? We can't end up in
tun_net_xmit() concurrently, right? I'm not (knowingly) using XDP.

> Ideally we want to react when the queue starts building rather than when
> it starts getting full; by pushing back on upper layers (or, if
> forwarding, dropping packets to signal congestion).

This is precisely what my first accidental if (!ptr_ring_empty())
variant was doing, right? :)

> In practice, this means tuning the TX ring to the *minimum* size it can
> be without starving (this is basically what BQL does for Ethernet), and
> keeping packets queued in the qdisc layer instead, where it can be
> managed...

I was going to add BQL (as $SUBJECT may have caused you to infer) but
trivially adding the netdev_sent_queue() in tun_net_xmit() and
netdev_completed_queue() for xdp vs. skb in tun_do_read() was tripping
the BUG in dql_completed(). I just ripped that part out and focused on
the queue stop/start and haven't gone back to it yet.


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