Hi Herbert,
| >> While looking at DCCP sequence numbers, I stumbled over a problem with | >> the following definition of before in tcp.h: | >> | >> static inline int before(__u32 seq1, __u32 seq2) | >> { | >> return (__s32)(seq1-seq2) < 0; | >> } | >> | >> Problem: This definition suffers from an an ambiguity, i.e. always | >> | >> before(a, (a + 2^31) % 2^32)) = 1 | >> before((a + 2^31) % 2^32), a) = 1 | >> | >> In text: when the difference between a and b amounts to 2^31, | >> a is always considered `before' b, the function can not decide. | >> The reason is that implicitly 0 is `before' 1 ... 2^31-1 ... 2^31 | >> | >> Solution: There is a simple fix, by defining before in such a way that | >> 0 is no longer `before' 2^31, i.e. 0 `before' 1 ... 2^31-1 | >> By not using the middle between 0 and 2^32, before can be made | >> unambiguous. | >> This is achieved by testing whether seq2-seq1 > 0 (using signed | >> 32-bit arithmetic). | | Sorry, I still don't get the point of this change. | | Prior to the patch, we have values x and y such that both | before(x, y) and before(y, x) are true. Now for those same | values both before(x, y) and before(y, x) are false. | | It's still as ambiguous as ever. Surely to resolve the | ambiguity we want to make before(x, y) = !before(y, x), no? Please let me restate: Ambiguity here means that for those numbers x,y such that (x + 2^31) % 2^32) = y before(x, y) = 1 and before(y, x) = 1. With the previous implementation, one could not tell the difference here: and there are 2^32 such cases where this occurs. With the implementation now, the output of before(x,y) is reliable: it returns true if (and only if) x is indeed `before' y. If before(x,y) is false then there are now two possibilities: (a) before(y, x) is true and y != (x + 2^31) % 2^32 (b) before(y, x) is false and y == (x + 2^31) % 2^32 This means that the cases can be clearly separated out, which was not possible before. To summarize the differences: ----------------------------- 1) Possible cases in the old implementation (exclusive-or list): * x == y - identity * before(x, y) && !before(y, x) - x is `before' y * before(y, x) && !before(x, y) - y is `before' x * before(x, y) && before(y, x) - y == (x + 2^31) % 2^32 2) Possible cases in the new implementation (exclusive-or list): * x == y - identity * before(x, y) - x is `before' x * before(y, x) - y is `before x * !before(x, y) && !before(y, x) - y == (x + 2^31) % 2^32 As can be seen (2) requires fewer test cases while (1) would need extra checks to disambiguate before(x, y) from the case "before(x,y) && before(y,x)". I do believe that this is useful, since now speeds of 10 Gigabits are in use, which means that sequence numbers wrap around faster; and also with regard to the issue of selecting an initial sequence number; and protection against sequence number attacks. A related discussion is in RFC 1982, but with regard to the case y == (x + 2^31) % 2^32 it recommends to leave this `undefined' -- the new solution is in agreement with this, and is even less complicated to implement. Gerrit - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe netdev" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html