On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 12:56:57AM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > On Wednesday, 20 September 2006 00:30, Greg KH wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 19, 2006 at 03:06:29PM -0700, David Miller wrote: > > > From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 00:06:52 +0200 > > > > > > > I _guess_ the problem is caused by > > > > gregkh-driver-network-class_device-to-device.patch, but I can't verify > > > > this, > > > > because the kernel (obviously) doesn't compile if I revert it. > > > > > > Indeed. > > > > > > I thought we threw this patch out because we knew it would cause > > > problems for existing systems? I do remember Greg making an argument > > > as to why we needed the change, but that doesn't make breaking people's > > > systems legitimate in any way. > > > > It's now thrown out, and I think Andrew already had a patch in his tree > > that reverted this. > > > > I'll be bringing it back eventually, but first we are going to work out > > all the kinks by probably putting these changes in the next few SuSE > > alpha releases to see what shakes out in userspace that we need to go > > fix. > > > > It's not 2.6.19 material at all, so don't worry :) > > Please note, however, that by including such changes in -mm we make _other_ > things be not tested. > > For example, if I can't install a new kernel and use it on my system without > replacing some other pieces of software, I just won't be using it, because I > have no time for playing with udev, hal, powersaved, acpid, ... > Then, if there are any bugs in it that would have shown up on my system, > we won't know about them unless they show up on someone else's system, > which may not happen. > > The more changes that break existing setups are there in -mm, the less > people will acutally try to use -mm kernels and that will result in buggier > -rc kernels and more bugs propagating to the "stable" ones. Do we really > want that to happen?
When it comes back, I will have updates for all versions of broken udev packages so that it will not break older distros. Then it will be able to be tested. thanks, greg k-h - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe netdev" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
