On Thu, Dec 08, 2016 at 12:46:07PM -0800, John Fastabend wrote: > > Fair enough but disabling LRO to handle the case where you "might" get > a DDOS will hurt normal good traffic.
the xdp_pass path is not optimized right now. so even without VMs we need some work to do. lro or not-lro is imo secondary. > > I frankly don't see a use case where you'd want to steer a packet > > all the way into VM just to drop them there? > > VM to VM traffic is my use case. And in that model we need XDP at the > virtio or vhost layer in case of malicious/broke/untrusted VM. I have > some vhost patches under development for when net-next opens up again. excellent. looking forward to vhost patches. > > Without XDP_TX it's too crippled. adjust_head() won't be possible, > > Just a nit but any reason not to support adjust_head and then XDP_PASS. > I don't have a use case in mind but also see no reason to preclude it. adjust_head and xdp_pass needs to be supported. No doubt. the use case is metadata passing between xdp and upper layers. > In summary: > > I think its worth investigating getting LRO working but agree we can't > sacrifice any of the existing features or complicate the code to do it. > If the result of investigating is it can't be done then that is how it > is. agree > Requiring XDP drivers to support all features is fine for me I can make > the virtio queue scheme a bit more flexible. Michael might have some > opinion on this though. I say right now all the features are pretty much must have, but in the future we will become selective. Like zero-copy a page from dma into user space probably doesn't make sense to do for virtio. Multi-port TX from virtio into phys netdev doesn't make sense either. > This series shouldn't be blocked by any of the above. completely agree. since we abandoned e1000+xdp patches, the virtio+xdp is the only thing on the table that allows us to do convenient development and testing of xdp programs. We've talked about a repository of blessed xdp programs. They all would need to be routinely and automatically tested. So virtio+xdp is a must have feature to me.