On Sat, 20 Aug 2005, David S. Miller wrote:

> Christoph, you're a really bright guy, perhaps you can sit and come up
> with some other ideas which would act as stateless alternatives to
> TOE?  I bet you can do it, if you would simply try...

I worked through the alternatives last year including some of the large 
packet tricks that are not really standard conformant. None of these
was really satisfactory and I ended up wasting a lot of my consulting 
time for a vendor. They finally gave up on jumbo packets that I used to 
favor.

The basic issue is the fundamental design of the TCP layer. If we could 
redesign that layer then we may be able to come up with a stateless 
protocol but we are condemmned to follow TCP standard. Offload technology 
is inevitable as far as I can see and Chelsio has the most innovative 
design in harmony with Linux design principles that I know of. They 
have developed an API that will also allow other vendors to hook into our 
tcp layer. Lets at least give this a try. They are willing to commit 
resources to get this going.
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